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Re: Obama calls for municipal broadband

#11
Municipal governments are a big part of the problem. They make it nearly impossible for companies to build new ISPs.

Municipal governments: the cause of, and solution to, your ISP woes.

It reminds me of housing. 1) Governments restrict new housing. 2) Housing becomes unaffordable. 3) Government builds public housing because "the free market has failed."

Re: Obama calls for municipal broadband

#12
post #5

Municipal broadband is a great idea. A town near me, Olds, just rolled out gigabit fiber to the curb for $57/mo. Considering most of the other nearby municipalities have to live with dialup or (agonizingly slow) satellite internet, it's been a big draw to the area. I think it absolutely makes a ton of sense for rural areas; if I had a remote job it would be very tempting to head out there and get an acreage. I feel l…

> to the curb for $57/mo.

What's the setup fee to run fiber 100 feet and into your house to set up the box? Because Verizon did it for free.

I still think private competition is better here. Verizon only did it for free because they're trying to tread on Time Warner, which is the way it should be.

Re: Obama calls for municipal broadband

#13
I wish we had seen this more progressive, pro-active Obama 6 years ago.

Squandered his political capital on a shitty health care reform bill, got shell shocked by Republican opposition and crawled up his own ass for a couple of years. Now that he doesn't give a shit about elections anymore he's actually doing something.

Re: Obama calls for municipal broadband

#14
post #6

Really, he's calling for the FCC to prevent rent-seeking by local ISP monopolies by allowing the option of municipal networks. It's a really good idea; you can tell because of how stridently Comcast/Verizon/AT&T oppose it.

What do you think the federal policy on torrents will be? Ask Disney.

Re: Obama calls for municipal broadband

#16

Municipal governments are a big part of the problem. They make it nearly impossible for companies to build new ISPs. Municipal governments: the cause of, and solution to, your ISP woes. It reminds me of housing. 1) Governments restrict new housing. 2) Housing becomes unaffordable. 3) Government builds public housing because "the free market has failed."

Don't forget state laws. "Legislatures in 19 states have enacted laws restricting local governments from entering the broadband business". They can either get in the way of municipal deployments, or prevent municipal governments from interfering with public internet projects.

Re: Obama calls for municipal broadband

#17
That title is a little (may I say intentionally?) misleading, by leaving important context out. He is not proposing his government runs a high-speed internet project, he is proposing local municipalities be allowed to run high-speed internet projects, or rather, states be banned from banning them (confused yet?).

Re: Obama calls for municipal broadband

#18
It's not clear that the FCC can preempt state laws that prohibit municipal broadband. From the Wikipedia article on municipal broadband [1]:

    In 2000, the Federal Communications Commission
    endorsed municipal broadband as a "best practice"
    for bringing broadband to under served communities.
    The FCC also addressed the question of whether a
    municipality was an "entity" under the
    Telecommunications Act which mandates that "No State
    or local statute or regulation, or other State or
    local legal requirement, may prohibit or have the
    effect of prohibiting the ability of any entity to
    provide any interstate or intrastate
    telecommunications service." 47 USC 253(a). The
    legal question revolved around whether a state could
    prevent a municipality, as its subordinate
    government body, from entering the telecommunication
    market. In the case of Missouri Municipal League v.
    Nixon, the U.S. Supreme Court concluded that a
    municipality was not an entity under the
    Telecommunications Act and that a state could
    determine what authority its own subordinate
    jurisdictions had.
I have not yet had a chance to look at Missouri Municipal League v. Nixon to see if the above is correct.

It's also possible that the FCC is considering using some different regulatory authority to preempt state laws this time.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Municipal_broadband

Re: Obama calls for municipal broadband

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post #12
post #5

Municipal broadband is a great idea. A town near me, Olds, just rolled out gigabit fiber to the curb for $57/mo. Considering most of the other nearby municipalities have to live with dialup or (agonizingly slow) satellite internet, it's been a big draw to the area. I think it absolutely makes a ton of sense for rural areas; if I had a remote job it would be very tempting to head out there and get an acreage. I feel l…

> to the curb for $57/mo. What's the setup fee to run fiber 100 feet and into your house to set up the box? Because Verizon did it for free. I still think private competition is better here. Verizon only did it for free because they're trying to tread on Time Warner, which is the way it should be.

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