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Re: DigitalOcean now supports FreeBSD

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Post by tw04 »

swills wrote: post #64

There does seem to be one part of their announcement that's a bit off: While similar to other open source unix-like operating systems, it’s unique in that the development of both its kernel and user space utilities are managed by the same core team, ensuring consistent development standards across the project. Wouldn't it be Linux that would be unique in that they don't do this? Solaris, AIX, HP-UX, all the BSDs, Mac…

So two things:

None of the OS's you listed are open source.

The second part of the statement, the way I read it, is comparing FreeBSD to DigitalOcean's current offerings - Linux. Keep in mind the post is for someone that's already using DO's services, which is a person who has only ever used Linux on their platform.

Re: DigitalOcean now supports FreeBSD

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Post by bsg75 »

xhrpost wrote: post #28

As a web developer who knows enough Linux to do minimum dev-ops, could anyone recommend some things worth playing around with in FreeBSD? Like "do this and see how easy it is vs Ubuntu!". Or are the gains more long term like better stability?

I asked a related question from the database developer perspective just yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8884125

Re: DigitalOcean now supports FreeBSD

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Post by isaacdl »

swills wrote: post #64

There does seem to be one part of their announcement that's a bit off: While similar to other open source unix-like operating systems, it’s unique in that the development of both its kernel and user space utilities are managed by the same core team, ensuring consistent development standards across the project. Wouldn't it be Linux that would be unique in that they don't do this? Solaris, AIX, HP-UX, all the BSDs, Mac…

AFAIK, AIX, HP-UX, and Mac OS X are not open source (I'm only positive about OS X)

Re: DigitalOcean now supports FreeBSD

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Post by anonova »

nullrouted wrote: post #52
anonova wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. I was running Arch Linux on a personal droplet, and they decided to deprecate support for it. I don't even think there was an official announcement about it. There's even quite a bit of backing to bring it back [1], and oddly, they use an old video on their front page with when Arch was still listed [2]. "Built for developers" => can't use developer's favorite OS. :( [1]: https://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forum…

Because Arch is what % of the userbase and how much does it cost to support that userbase? It gets kind of old hearing people whine about this. If you really want Arch there are providers that support it.

I would expect FreeBSD to also be in the minority compared to Linux distros [1].

There are also other providers that support *BSD and people still requested it on DO. Why can't I ask for Arch?

[1]: http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/os-unix/all/all

Re: DigitalOcean now supports FreeBSD

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Post by emeraldd »

swills wrote: post #64

There does seem to be one part of their announcement that's a bit off: While similar to other open source unix-like operating systems, it’s unique in that the development of both its kernel and user space utilities are managed by the same core team, ensuring consistent development standards across the project. Wouldn't it be Linux that would be unique in that they don't do this? Solaris, AIX, HP-UX, all the BSDs, Mac…

They may be treating the various linux distributions as separate entities. Then the number of Linux based operating systems should far outpace just about anything else ....

Re: DigitalOcean now supports FreeBSD

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Post by woodman »

Thaxll wrote: post #40
joshbaptiste wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dtrace alone will turn you from a developer to a Developer + Systems admin + practical OS engineer, you will understand how your stack is performing within various lower levels of the operating system and be able to tune the hell out of your stack from bottom up.

Come on, 0.1% of the people need Dtrace...

0.1% of people in the world? That seems a little high. 0.1% of people who describe themselves as *-dev? That seems really low. Also, how do you define "need"? Dtrace isn't just for tracing functions down to the kernel level, and I can imagine all sorts of things that a web dev would find useful in dtrace. Just google "ruby dtrace".

Re: DigitalOcean now supports FreeBSD

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Post by ChristianBundy »

swills wrote: post #64

There does seem to be one part of their announcement that's a bit off: While similar to other open source unix-like operating systems, it’s unique in that the development of both its kernel and user space utilities are managed by the same core team, ensuring consistent development standards across the project. Wouldn't it be Linux that would be unique in that they don't do this? Solaris, AIX, HP-UX, all the BSDs, Mac…

For anyone else having trouble reading the quote:

> While similar to other open source unix-like operating systems, it’s unique in that the development of both its kernel and user space utilities are managed by the same core team, ensuring consistent development standards across the project.

Re: DigitalOcean now supports FreeBSD

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Post by icelancer »

samgimbel wrote: post #41
icelancer wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have a bunch of stuff that was "planned" for Q1 2014 (separate hardware for master/slave setups) that aren't even close to shipping. Pretty frustrating. I like Digital Ocean and I use them in production for some apps but it's very hard to take their techops team seriously when they are missing deadlines by 12-18 months or more without regular updates. It's pretty unprofessional.

Hey there, Sam here from the DO Product team. You're right, we dropped the ball on UserVoice. There aren't any excuses to be made. I know it's a lot to ask, but please trust that going forward we will be much more transparent through UserVoice & elsewhere. We'll also be much more intentional in communicating our priorities through that medium, as this seems to be at the root of the concern about missing deadlines. Ag…

Do you have a timetable on when tickets and announcements will be set up? There are outstanding issues with hundreds/thousands of votes with zero updates, and promises made 12 months ago with no progress. I've heard DO reps in the past say they were going to update things but lack of follow-up is always what happened.

I think I speak for a lot of DO users who have to rely on AWS/Linode for larger clients that we'd move more infrastructure over to larger plans if we could just get better ops timelines. Your support for servers has been nothing short of great in my experience, but no timelines and no communication on stuff as important as retaining IPs and uploading custom ISOs (both available on cheap $5 VPS providers that are nobodies on LowEndBox) is really frustrating.

Re: DigitalOcean now supports FreeBSD

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Post by Alupis »

isaacdl wrote: post #73
swills wrote: post #64

There does seem to be one part of their announcement that's a bit off: While similar to other open source unix-like operating systems, it’s unique in that the development of both its kernel and user space utilities are managed by the same core team, ensuring consistent development standards across the project. Wouldn't it be Linux that would be unique in that they don't do this? Solaris, AIX, HP-UX, all the BSDs, Mac…

AFAIK, AIX, HP-UX, and Mac OS X are not open source (I'm only positive about OS X)

OSX is largely based on DarwinOS + some lipstick and customization... so it's close-ish to being Open Source... but I see the point.

Re: DigitalOcean now supports FreeBSD

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Post by swills »

tw04 wrote: post #71
swills wrote: post #64

There does seem to be one part of their announcement that's a bit off: While similar to other open source unix-like operating systems, it’s unique in that the development of both its kernel and user space utilities are managed by the same core team, ensuring consistent development standards across the project. Wouldn't it be Linux that would be unique in that they don't do this? Solaris, AIX, HP-UX, all the BSDs, Mac…

So two things: None of the OS's you listed are open source. The second part of the statement, the way I read it, is comparing FreeBSD to DigitalOcean's current offerings - Linux. Keep in mind the post is for someone that's already using DO's services, which is a person who has only ever used Linux on their platform.

Good point, I glossed over that detail, but they are comparing to only open source OS's, so my examples are bad. Still, looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open-source_opera... I think Linux is the odd man out here. Anyway, I suppose most of them aren't popular enough to be considered by Digital Ocean or their customers, so you're right there.
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