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I Owe It All to Community College

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Re: I Owe It All to Community College

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$95 dollars a semester. It shows you how society used to provide resources for people to bootstrap their lives. The same individuals who benefited from this investment have not decided to pay it forward. They argue for lower taxes and support for education.

How much do you think community college costs these days after a Pell Grant?

Re: I Owe It All to Community College

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post #3

> classes I dropped after the first hour (astronomy, because it was all math) Yet another cultural figure stating without embarrassment how bad they are at math.

I'm just impressed that a community college level astronomy course had math in it. Mine was nothing but familiarizing students stargazing and terminology.

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clearly he optimized his brain for arts. Why would he be good at math?

Not the point. It undermines the whole STEM promotion that the US is currently undergoing. You never hear anybody brag about how they no can read gooder, if they're an athlete, butcher, scientist, whatever.

Ehhh, I hear STEM people with an embarrassing grasp of writing/social interaction/the humanities wear that as a badge of honor. At least Hanks if self-effacing.

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$95 dollars a semester. It shows you how society used to provide resources for people to bootstrap their lives. The same individuals who benefited from this investment have not decided to pay it forward. They argue for lower taxes and support for education.

How much do you think community college costs these days after a Pell Grant?

Is it more efficient to have a whole complicated financial aid system or just provide discounted access to everyone.

Time is money.

Re: I Owe It All to Community College

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$95 dollars a semester. It shows you how society used to provide resources for people to bootstrap their lives. The same individuals who benefited from this investment have not decided to pay it forward. They argue for lower taxes and support for education.

How much do you think community college costs these days after a Pell Grant?

$95 refers to the cost per semester at Sacramento State University.

Re: I Owe It All to Community College

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clearly he optimized his brain for arts. Why would he be good at math?

Not the point. It undermines the whole STEM promotion that the US is currently undergoing. You never hear anybody brag about how they no can read gooder, if they're an athlete, butcher, scientist, whatever.

People brag about being bad at everything from public speaking to comedy to, yes, even math.

Re: I Owe It All to Community College

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much do you think community college costs these days after a Pell Grant?

Is it more efficient to have a whole complicated financial aid system or just provide discounted access to everyone. Time is money.

+1 to this. As someone who had both scholarships and pell grants (i made money going to a state school in utah) I still would have just preferred discounted tuition for all.

Re: I Owe It All to Community College

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I have issues with the Obama plan, not because I'm against community colleges, but because I have issues with how this will (probably) be funded (read: taxes). As a libertarian / ancap who believes taxation is theft, I don't support anything involving spending tax dollars, no matter how noble the end. That said, I'm a community college grad myself, three times over. I have an A.G.E. (General Education) from Brunswick…

Since taxes aren't going away anytime soon, I'd rather that taxes be used for education than military and prison building.

Re: I Owe It All to Community College

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I have issues with the Obama plan, not because I'm against community colleges, but because I have issues with how this will (probably) be funded (read: taxes). As a libertarian / ancap who believes taxation is theft, I don't support anything involving spending tax dollars, no matter how noble the end. That said, I'm a community college grad myself, three times over. I have an A.G.E. (General Education) from Brunswick…

Libertarian here as well.

I am more of the opinion that the government should set rules on the cost of education for any school accepting government aid or any school who accepts students who pay with government loans.

Want to get the price of education back in line, drop the open checkbook.

The issue I take with taxing to pay for everyone's college is that apparently there is no determination what constitutes a good education or good student. As in, I do not want to see money thrown at majors that can never pay back the investment or require such skill and luck to achieve pay back relative to the cost. Then comes the student, if your just a fail student why should anyone foot your bill to stay in school? You get the same number of years as anyone else. If you don't achieve the diploma you pay back a percentage

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