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Bitcoin crashes over 25% in 24 hours, under $180

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Re: Bitcoin crashes over 25% in 24 hours, under $180

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Not really surprising. 2014 was meant to be the year of bitcoin and it flopped as far as the general public was concerned. Bitcoin picked up some more merchants but they almost universally saw disappointing sales or dramatic drop offs(Overstock the poster child which at one point was claiming serious expectations of $15-20m in bitcoin sales ended up with a 5th of the lower end of their claim). Mining companies are cl…

"Was meant to be" amounts to your own view. The software isn't even called 1.0 yet, and the core developers all say the important applications are a couple of years away. Yes, Bitcoin was probably hurt by the mania surrounding $1000. Had it gone to $180 from $30, without the spike, there would be calls of tulip mania instead. Is it too early to build applications on top of Bitcoin? No, I don't think so, some wants to…

The software isn't even called 1.0 yet

Neither is node.js, yet tons of successful startups run on it.

For years, Gmail was still "beta". If it had a major security leak, "it's beta" would mean little. It would still qualify as a failure.

Re: Bitcoin crashes over 25% in 24 hours, under $180

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Yeah, as much as I like the concept of bitcoin (and the blockchain), I don't see adoption becoming anything more than anecdotal. No interest rate, and you have to secure it yourself? No thanks. My "big bad bank" guarantees me at least a small interest in saving money, and if my card is stolen, I get a new one in 24 hours and all transactions are cancelled. I'm happy to pay some transaction fees ("extortion!") to get…

Although Bitcoin is often marketed as such, it doesn't necessarily compete with banks. I personally see it as a currency which competes with other currencies. It's a bit like paper cash except that it can be stored digitally. I don't see what would prevent "big bad banks" (although unlikely) from adopting BTC as one of the many currencies they support and offer all the protections and services they offer with other c…

It's not federally insured.

Re: Bitcoin crashes over 25% in 24 hours, under $180

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Yeah, as much as I like the concept of bitcoin (and the blockchain), I don't see adoption becoming anything more than anecdotal. No interest rate, and you have to secure it yourself? No thanks. My "big bad bank" guarantees me at least a small interest in saving money, and if my card is stolen, I get a new one in 24 hours and all transactions are cancelled. I'm happy to pay some transaction fees ("extortion!") to get…

I think it is expected that relatively new currencies have a turbulent period of a certain time. And as for interest, here in the Netherlands it is less than inflation so you loose money (interest on savings accounts is about 1%, inflation is between 1 and 2% over the past years).

Bitcoin has or will have its niche, perhaps it will not be for your savings but sharing money with friends using a bitcoin wallet app is by far the most frictionless paying experience I ever had. I think you opinion is on the spot though... for now.

Re: Bitcoin crashes over 25% in 24 hours, under $180

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Yeah, as much as I like the concept of bitcoin (and the blockchain), I don't see adoption becoming anything more than anecdotal. No interest rate, and you have to secure it yourself? No thanks. My "big bad bank" guarantees me at least a small interest in saving money, and if my card is stolen, I get a new one in 24 hours and all transactions are cancelled. I'm happy to pay some transaction fees ("extortion!") to get…

Although Bitcoin is often marketed as such, it doesn't necessarily compete with banks. I personally see it as a currency which competes with other currencies. It's a bit like paper cash except that it can be stored digitally. I don't see what would prevent "big bad banks" (although unlikely) from adopting BTC as one of the many currencies they support and offer all the protections and services they offer with other c…

Banks can already transfer fund between themselves electronically and efficiently. And a bank account is exactly storing paper currency digitally.

Again, I don't see what the innovation here is, except the technical aspects (the blockchain as a distributed system is very clever).

Re: Bitcoin crashes over 25% in 24 hours, under $180

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Was meant to be" amounts to your own view. The software isn't even called 1.0 yet, and the core developers all say the important applications are a couple of years away. Yes, Bitcoin was probably hurt by the mania surrounding $1000. Had it gone to $180 from $30, without the spike, there would be calls of tulip mania instead. Is it too early to build applications on top of Bitcoin? No, I don't think so, some wants to…

The software isn't even called 1.0 yet Neither is node.js, yet tons of successful startups run on it. For years, Gmail was still "beta". If it had a major security leak, "it's beta" would mean little. It would still qualify as a failure.

> Neither is node.js, yet tons of successful startups run on it.

It will get them off the ground. Then they will need to start rewriting a backend pipeline in something fast and predictable.

Re: Bitcoin crashes over 25% in 24 hours, under $180

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If people actually started using it as a currency instead of only using it to trade for other currencies, it would be more stable.

There's so much that can be done with Bitcoin as a technology, yet people are treating it like a mineral.

Re: Bitcoin crashes over 25% in 24 hours, under $180

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Yeah, as much as I like the concept of bitcoin (and the blockchain), I don't see adoption becoming anything more than anecdotal. No interest rate, and you have to secure it yourself? No thanks. My "big bad bank" guarantees me at least a small interest in saving money, and if my card is stolen, I get a new one in 24 hours and all transactions are cancelled. I'm happy to pay some transaction fees ("extortion!") to get…

"I don't see adoption becoming anything more than anecdotal."

Well the value of the whole blockchain is over $2.5Bn, so it's more than anecdotal. http://coinmarketcap.com/

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