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Silk Road Defense Says Ulbricht Was Framed by the ‘Real’ Dread Pirate Roberts

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Re: Silk Road Defense Says Ulbricht Was Framed by the ‘Real’ Dread Pirate Roberts

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I know he's fighting for his freedom and you can't begrudge a man for doing whatever it takes to beat a charge, but I really think this is such a cop-out defense and I wish he had the balls to act like the same person he pretended to be when he was writing his grand manifestos about freedom of choice and individual rights. Whatever Ulbricht himself may be, whether or not the murder for hire allegations are true, howe…

>the libertarian ideals that justify the existence of Silk Road should have their day in court Real trials don't play out like they do in hollywood. You don't get to spend your time in court talking about your ideology and lobbying for better laws. The entire trial will be about whether or not he's guilty of breaking the laws that already exist.

The defense can object to letting him explain his libertarian viewpoints if they can convince the judge it is not relevant to the case or charges. Which the prosecutor in this case directly attempted during pretrial last month:

> Prosecutors in the case against alleged Silk Road mastermind Ross Ulbricht want the court to prohibit Ulbricht from saying almost anything political at all, according to a motion filed last week by the government.

> They’re worried that the jury might end up sympathizing with Ulbricht’s politics.

http://www.dailydot.com/politics/silk-road-jury-nullificatio...

Re: Silk Road Defense Says Ulbricht Was Framed by the ‘Real’ Dread Pirate Roberts

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It will be interesting to see this unfold. But I am inclined to believe Ulbricht here. My main reason for finding it immediately believable is that the name "Dread Pirate Roberts" is an obvious Princess Bride reference to a pirate who inherited his trade and occupation from another pirate. That combined with the fact that the name did not appear on the forums for the first few months leads me to believe that the name…

Seems more like a 'grasping at straws' strategy to me.

Re: Silk Road Defense Says Ulbricht Was Framed by the ‘Real’ Dread Pirate Roberts

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It will be interesting to see this unfold. But I am inclined to believe Ulbricht here. My main reason for finding it immediately believable is that the name "Dread Pirate Roberts" is an obvious Princess Bride reference to a pirate who inherited his trade and occupation from another pirate. That combined with the fact that the name did not appear on the forums for the first few months leads me to believe that the name…

What 2013 quote?

The one at the end of the article.

Re: Silk Road Defense Says Ulbricht Was Framed by the ‘Real’ Dread Pirate Roberts

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Will be interesting to see how this plays out. Maybe they just need to convince the jury he didn't act alone? There is probably a decent amount of evidence to show he had help and maybe wasn't running the whole operation, but this seems like a defense approach that will make the jury very suspicious from the onset.

I think he really is just trying to convince the jury that it might have been someone else who ordered the murders.

That should shave decades off the jailtime.

Re: Silk Road Defense Says Ulbricht Was Framed by the ‘Real’ Dread Pirate Roberts

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post #30
post #7

I know he's fighting for his freedom and you can't begrudge a man for doing whatever it takes to beat a charge, but I really think this is such a cop-out defense and I wish he had the balls to act like the same person he pretended to be when he was writing his grand manifestos about freedom of choice and individual rights. Whatever Ulbricht himself may be, whether or not the murder for hire allegations are true, howe…

>the libertarian ideals that justify the existence of Silk Road should have their day in court Real trials don't play out like they do in hollywood. You don't get to spend your time in court talking about your ideology and lobbying for better laws. The entire trial will be about whether or not he's guilty of breaking the laws that already exist.

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Re: Silk Road Defense Says Ulbricht Was Framed by the ‘Real’ Dread Pirate Roberts

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post #31
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>the libertarian ideals that justify the existence of Silk Road should have their day in court Real trials don't play out like they do in hollywood. You don't get to spend your time in court talking about your ideology and lobbying for better laws. The entire trial will be about whether or not he's guilty of breaking the laws that already exist.

The defense can object to letting him explain his libertarian viewpoints if they can convince the judge it is not relevant to the case or charges. Which the prosecutor in this case directly attempted during pretrial last month: > Prosecutors in the case against alleged Silk Road mastermind Ross Ulbricht want the court to prohibit Ulbricht from saying almost anything political at all, according to a motion filed last…

If he were being tried by a jury of his peers, it would not need explaining.

Re: Silk Road Defense Says Ulbricht Was Framed by the ‘Real’ Dread Pirate Roberts

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The defense can object to letting him explain his libertarian viewpoints if they can convince the judge it is not relevant to the case or charges. Which the prosecutor in this case directly attempted during pretrial last month: > Prosecutors in the case against alleged Silk Road mastermind Ross Ulbricht want the court to prohibit Ulbricht from saying almost anything political at all, according to a motion filed last…

If he were being tried by a jury of his peers , it would not need explaining.

That's not what a "jury of one's peers" is.

Re: Silk Road Defense Says Ulbricht Was Framed by the ‘Real’ Dread Pirate Roberts

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The defense can object to letting him explain his libertarian viewpoints if they can convince the judge it is not relevant to the case or charges. Which the prosecutor in this case directly attempted during pretrial last month: > Prosecutors in the case against alleged Silk Road mastermind Ross Ulbricht want the court to prohibit Ulbricht from saying almost anything political at all, according to a motion filed last…

If he were being tried by a jury of his peers , it would not need explaining.

'peer group' != legal 'peers'. http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-procedure/what-is-a-jur...

Re: Silk Road Defense Says Ulbricht Was Framed by the ‘Real’ Dread Pirate Roberts

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So for him to effectively use this defense, he'd have to cast reasonable doubt on the prosecution's evidence that he was "Dread Pirate Roberts"?

And in order to do that, he'd have to discredit the authenticity of their evidence that his computer was the one doing all the work, which means the defense would have to show that his computer was hacked, and all of the evidence was forged by the hacker(s).

How's he going to show a jury of non-techies (which you know the prosecution selected for) that it was all just his computer getting hacked?

How do any high-level technical trials work, when the jury goes into the trial not educated on the topic? The reliance on expert testimony?

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