Charlie Hebdo: first cover since terror attack depicts prophet Muhammad

Post by Nursie » Tue, Jan 13, 2015, 2:09 PM UTC

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>> First of all.. certainly as a Muslim, I condemn the attack on Charlie Hebdo. This is not Islam. Pretending Islam is one single thing seems to be part of the problem. Are the IS fighters following Islam? Were the Hebdo shooters? Or are you? All would answer yes but clearly are very different, conflicting philosophies.

If you can't believe either me or them, then you surely can try to find out what Islam is yourself right? Best help is self help! To start looking, pick up a genuine English Translation of Quran.

Post by jules » Tue, Jan 13, 2015, 2:10 PM UTC

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While I respect Secco and his work as well it's also wrong and out of context in some regards. Ruben Bolling: http://gocomics.typepad.com/tomthedancingbugblog/2015/01/in-...

I'd never heard of CH a week ago, and Bolling's interpretation of CH's cartooning may be more accurate than Secco's, and it was an interesting perspective. But I think that Bolling's conclusions are wrong, except perhaps when he rebuts Secco's use of the word "vapid". Bolling says that the only reasonable reaction to the murders is to defend free speech. No. Defending free speech is necessary, but it's not at all cle…

Post by darkr » Tue, Jan 13, 2015, 2:10 PM UTC

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I used to think society would, at some point, grow up and leave religion behind. But lately, it just feels like a far 'lower' form of religion is just taking over. I think that western christianity has made some big strides. For example, by leaving all the violence behind. Now the violent ones are winning. This makes me sad for the future of Europe.

The religious instinct hasn't gone from the secular western world, it's just been re-expressed in different more modern ways, variously consumerism, string theory, celebrity, and so on. I'm pretty sure personally that it's built into our biology. In the words of Charlie Brooker: "Imagine! Nothing to kill or die for! And no religion too! It's amazing, literally no one's ever had that thought before. Okay, so there's a…

Post by rikacomet » Tue, Jan 13, 2015, 2:12 PM UTC

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rikacomet wrote: post #95

First of all.. certainly as a Muslim, I condemn the attack on Charlie Hebdo. This is not Islam. But, if I were to take the liberty to express my own opinion, I would say honestly, I think both parties were at wrong here. First that their have been many instances in the life of our prophet, when he faced not just harsh but inhuman treatment, specially in his hometown of Mecca. Yet he never lifted a finger or even wish…

From my personal understanding of the issue , the law forbidding depictions of Mohammed applies ONLY TO MUSLIMS. The purpose was that Islam is dead against the idea of idol worship as that was one of the chief causes of disunity and warring among the various tribal factions of Mecca. So if somebody else makes a cartoon depiction of Mohammed , Islam doesn't have anything to say about that. Every other religion has bee…

Post by mseebach » Tue, Jan 13, 2015, 2:13 PM UTC

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if HN as a community cannot accept a simple, logical and apparently non-offending statement against christianity. Then it really needs to declare it as a policy, and endorse Islamic bashing officially!

@throwaway90446: Well I'll be more happy to accept this, if anyone here had quoted any verse from Quran (taken with context). But sadly people believe what they have heard, without doing much research.