Experts pledge to rein in AI research

My real concern with all of this is always the uncontrolled ecosystem of steadily evolving viruses and malware. We will never have control of that... and there is no telling what it can become in the future.

I think it will be a simple error induced by some random mutation in one of these malicious progams, not some vast artificial intelligence, that causes us problems in this arena first.

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jan 13, 2015, 12:53 PM UTC

jheriko wrote: post #4

This sounds like a publicity stunt... My real concern with all of this is always the uncontrolled ecosystem of steadily evolving viruses and malware. We will never have control of that... and there is no telling what it can become in the future. I think it will be a simple error induced by some random mutation in one of these malicious progams, not some vast artificial intelligence, that causes us problems in this ar…

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Post by drcomputer » Tue, Jan 13, 2015, 12:55 PM UTC

jheriko wrote: post #4

This sounds like a publicity stunt... My real concern with all of this is always the uncontrolled ecosystem of steadily evolving viruses and malware. We will never have control of that... and there is no telling what it can become in the future. I think it will be a simple error induced by some random mutation in one of these malicious progams, not some vast artificial intelligence, that causes us problems in this ar…

We need more AI working in the domain of computer security. Stuff that learns under specific guidelines to restrict computational behavior, given specifications of expected behavior.

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Post by maaaats » Tue, Jan 13, 2015, 12:58 PM UTC

I wonder: Why should we care about what Musk and Hawking mean about AI? This article doesn't mention too much bad stuff, but earlier they have said that we should be afraid of AI/singularity.

With my thesis now in AI, I probably know far more than those two about this. And we're sooo far away from AI being a superforce destroying mankind.

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Post by Beltiras » Tue, Jan 13, 2015, 12:58 PM UTC

AI would, and should, succeed human intelligence properly implemented. We are nowhere near even understanding it as a problem, much less solving it. I attended an AGI conference a couple of years ago (summer of 2012 iirc). The general feeling was that we are still a lifetime away from a solution.

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Post by bsaunder » Tue, Jan 13, 2015, 1:00 PM UTC

"In the short term, this could mean research into the economic effects of AI to stop smart systems putting millions of people out of work."

This seems unfortunate and somewhat challenging to do. Our current economic model encourages improving efficiency of systems. This seems like a good thing. Its really too bad that people "need" jobs. Jobs should be creating value or they shouldn't exist. Artificially "creating" jobs to prop up the systems feels like fighting against reality and a bad long term plan.

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Post by rndn » Tue, Jan 13, 2015, 1:09 PM UTC

maaaats wrote: post #7

I wonder: Why should we care about what Musk and Hawking mean about AI? This article doesn't mention too much bad stuff, but earlier they have said that we should be afraid of AI/singularity. With my thesis now in AI, I probably know far more than those two about this. And we're sooo far away from AI being a superforce destroying mankind.

You can probably assume they are in contact with the leading experts in the field. From the letter:

    The initial version of this document was drafted by
    Stuart Russell, Daniel Dewey & Max Tegmark, with major
    input from Janos Kramar & Richard Mallah, and reflects
    valuable feedback from Anthony Aguirre, Erik
    Brynjolfsson, Ryan Calo, Tom Dietterich, Dileep George,
    Bill Hibbard, Demis Hassabis, Eric Horvitz, Leslie Pack
    Kaelbling, James Manyika, Luke Muehlhauser, Michael
    Osborne, David Parkes, Heather Roff Perkins, Francesca
    Rossi, Bart Selman, Murray Shanahan, and many others.