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Leaked Palantir Doc Reveals Uses, Specific Functions and Key Clients

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Re: Leaked Palantir Doc Reveals Uses, Specific Functions and Key Clients

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post #67

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Palantir works for NSA and is a CIA startup.

Source?

https://www.iqt.org/iqt_portfolio/palantir-technologies/

NSA as a customer has been widely reported in popular press [1].

[1] http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/08/14/agent-o...

Re: Leaked Palantir Doc Reveals Uses, Specific Functions and Key Clients

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It's impressive, but without meaningful and effective restraints on its use it's potentially dangerous. There is a large focus on secrecy seemingly within the organization itself (Palantir) and the organizations it works with (NSA, CIA, FBI, etc.). One important question is, why is Palantir arming secretive organizations with very powerful technology? If the analysis capabilities are so great (and they appear to at l…

> why is Palantir arming secretive organizations with very powerful technology? They get paid handsomely. > more good that can be achieved by opening up the code to the software so that anyone can use it to tackle local and global problems around the planet This attitude bothers me. Palantir is not a charity. Why are you holding them to these standards?

>> more good that can be achieved by opening up the code to the software so that anyone can use it to tackle local and global problems around the planet

>This attitude bothers me. Palantir is not a charity. Why are you holding them to these standards?

I fail to see how that statement is an 'attitude'. I'm also not holding them to any standard in that statement. As far as I can tell, it's only a statement of fact. Or at least, perceived fact.

Do you think the statement is not accurate?

Re: Leaked Palantir Doc Reveals Uses, Specific Functions and Key Clients

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"Every new contract requires dozen extra people." I've heard this as well. They essentially hire customer-facing engineers to go out and scope specific contracts and literally implement custom solutions with small generic software frameworks they developed in house.

On one hand, it is true they deploy people to implement the software. On the other hand, the customer has results after 6-8 weeks. How much software can really be built in that sort of time frame? Not much... In my opinion Palantir is a product company, but the product is deeply integrated in to an enterprise. And doing that takes time and people.

so does HPCC from lexis nexis as woudl doing a roll your own solution either using AWS or your own cluster

Re: Leaked Palantir Doc Reveals Uses, Specific Functions and Key Clients

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According to this form, Morgan Stanley charges 25M to arrange a sale of 50M. Is there something behind this, or is this normal? http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1321655/0001321655140...

There are a few other sales where there are 0 fees. So likely they "don't charge" for those and put all of the fees in a single filing.

Unbelievable that this can be legal.

Re: Leaked Palantir Doc Reveals Uses, Specific Functions and Key Clients

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I consider them closer to SAP than the usual DC area style contracting company. What does distinguish them from most of the companies in the area though is that their product tends to work and scale somewhat which I can't say for the vast majority of government contractor produced software for the government at their (very, very schizophrenic and oftentimes misleading) direction. Actually hiring engineers that can co…

being lax with vetting has cost TLA's a lot but then police forces are second tier players.

And the actual codfiying isnt hard it undersatning the domain problem and how to apply the verious tools.

Having engineers that will want to work in this area and can pass the citizenship requirements is harder back in the day in the UK noprmaly all 4 gradparents had to be citizens from birth for DV (TS)

Re: Leaked Palantir Doc Reveals Uses, Specific Functions and Key Clients

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These guys? http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2011/02/11/palanti... Well they apologised, I guess. No resignations, no charges, no referring evidence to police. But yeah, they did apologise for it, so they got that going for them.

Didn't know they had connections to HBGary at some point. Quite telling, if you dealt with these "bottom of the barrel-guys".

I pitched in front of some people from ManTech once and knowing that they acquired HBGary made me somewhat uncomfortable - and made some negative things I heard about ManTech all the more believable.

Re: Leaked Palantir Doc Reveals Uses, Specific Functions and Key Clients

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post #74

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There are a few other sales where there are 0 fees. So likely they "don't charge" for those and put all of the fees in a single filing.

Unbelievable that this can be legal.

Could you explain to me why it's a problem or should be illegal? I don't know enough about the topic to understand your surprise that it's legal.

Re: Leaked Palantir Doc Reveals Uses, Specific Functions and Key Clients

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post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Source?

https://www.iqt.org/iqt_portfolio/palantir-technologies/ NSA as a customer has been widely reported in popular press [1]. [1] http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/08/14/agent-o...

Q: Is Palantir a front for the CIA?

A: No, the CIA is a front for Palantir.

- Peter Thiel

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