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We are moving the Roslyn code to GitHub

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Re: We are moving the Roslyn code to GitHub

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Post by icantthinkofone »

Stratoscope wrote: post #68
weego wrote: post #60

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It would be a horrible buy for any polarising brand. Microsoft is about as marmite as you get in software (along with Oracle perhaps) regardless of their recent attitude to being open. We have to be past the point where anyone with purchasibg power believes you can aquire credibility.

> Microsoft is about as marmite as you get in software (along with Oracle perhaps)... Sure, I have fond memories of the days when trendy developers would see me using a ThinkPad instead of a MacBook and ask, "Mike, when are you going to move away from the dark side?" Not so much any more. People I talk with seem reasonably impressed with the way Microsoft has been open sourcing .NET and other projects, making Visual…

I find this to be true of younger people who aren't aware of Microsoft's past and don't look at them with the sideways glance the rest of us do. In fact, I find it amazing how many younger people never even heard of their dark side and all the anti-trust movements on two continents.

Re: We are moving the Roslyn code to GitHub

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Post by sfk »

josteink wrote: post #65
pjmlp wrote: post #49

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Hipster value. All the cool kids are now using Github.

In a non-sarcastic world it's called "community" and it increases the chance of getting collaborators contributing to your project. You know, the point of open-source being that everyone should be able to contribute and all that.

In a naive world it's called community. These days open source is a vehicle for multinationals to get suckers to write and test their software for free.

Microsoft has caught on to that, hence the move.

Re: We are moving the Roslyn code to GitHub

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Post by lmm »

icantthinkofone wrote: post #71
Stratoscope wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Microsoft is about as marmite as you get in software (along with Oracle perhaps)... Sure, I have fond memories of the days when trendy developers would see me using a ThinkPad instead of a MacBook and ask, "Mike, when are you going to move away from the dark side?" Not so much any more. People I talk with seem reasonably impressed with the way Microsoft has been open sourcing .NET and other projects, making Visual…

I find this to be true of younger people who aren't aware of Microsoft's past and don't look at them with the sideways glance the rest of us do. In fact, I find it amazing how many younger people never even heard of their dark side and all the anti-trust movements on two continents.

Remember the dark side of IBM, ten years before Microsoft? And look at how open-source folk treated IBM, even ten years ago. Companies can be rehabilitated.

Re: We are moving the Roslyn code to GitHub

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Post by rjbwork »

InclinedPlane wrote: post #59
tdicola wrote: post #36

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What does MS gain? Is online source code storage really going to be a million or billion dollar business for them? It seems like it's just a race to the bottom with costs, just like Dropbox, Box, etc. etc.

pjmlp has it right, but I'll add some further clarifications. One of the most important aspects of Microsoft's success is network effect. People use Windows and Office because other people use Windows and Office. But network effect also works on the development/platform side. Devs write apps in the technologies they know and are comfortable with, and those tend to be the technologies they've used for personal or work…

Under-30 dev here. Been programming in C# for the past 3.5 years now, and loving every minute of it. I find VS and the associated tools be a far more productive and enjoyable experience than the Linux/Unix toolchains I was forced to use in undergrad, and C# to be a completely amazing language. The two warts, for me, are MSBuild (powerful, but obtuse at times, but still better than make) and PowerShell (again, powerful, but obtuse at times).

I also really like how .NET has first-rate libraries for the Azure ecosystem. It really makes doing some very technically difficult/interesting things easy on Azure.

As for others, I work with 2 developers who have made the jump from Java/JavaScript to working in C#/.NET because it is just a plain-old better experience.

As for relevancy and devs, C# is huge in enterprise, as I'm sure you know. I don't think they're really fighting to maintain relevancy there, and I would suggest that since the advent of MVC and Azure, they are growing in relevancy in the SaaS space.

Re: We are moving the Roslyn code to GitHub

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Post by grandalf »

brudgers wrote: post #39
bcantrill wrote: post #17

This is getting terrifyingly close to my prediction that Microsoft should/would/will buy GitHub. When I first started predicting this two or so years ago, it was mainly for its comedic value (it always got laughs, followed by "yeah, they should!" followed by nervous laughter followed by "wait, do you think they would actually do that?!"), but after the open sourcing of .NET I honestly think anything is possible. Espe…

I've been listening my way through the archive of Scott Hanselman's hanselminutes podcasts. Microsoft has been striving to be on the right side of history in regard to open source for five or six years. It's all out in the open. Moving to Github is simply developer friendly. Don't misunderstand me. Microsoft's products compete with open source software in the marketplace for developer mindshare and I am not suggestin…

It's great to see MS making smart choices!

Re: We are moving the Roslyn code to GitHub

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Post by why-el »

drinchev wrote: post #31
p0nce wrote: post #27

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My only complaint about bitbucket is that I want to see the code easily, not click through heaps of buttons to do that.

In the settings of every repo you own in Bitbucket, there is a n option to set "Landing Page" to source code and it will open the root path of your repo when you hit the link.

This one should be the default if you ask me.

Re: We are moving the Roslyn code to GitHub

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Post by josephcooney »

bcantrill wrote: post #17

This is getting terrifyingly close to my prediction that Microsoft should/would/will buy GitHub. When I first started predicting this two or so years ago, it was mainly for its comedic value (it always got laughs, followed by "yeah, they should!" followed by nervous laughter followed by "wait, do you think they would actually do that?!"), but after the open sourcing of .NET I honestly think anything is possible. Espe…

I don't think MS buying github is such a scary thing. There are a few ex-MSFT-ies working at Github (Phil Haack, Paul Betts), and a few other people from the wider MS community there. I guess that is inevitable when Github has 250-ish staff.

Re: We are moving the Roslyn code to GitHub

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Post by tankenmate »

SwellJoe wrote: post #35
bcantrill wrote: post #17

This is getting terrifyingly close to my prediction that Microsoft should/would/will buy GitHub. When I first started predicting this two or so years ago, it was mainly for its comedic value (it always got laughs, followed by "yeah, they should!" followed by nervous laughter followed by "wait, do you think they would actually do that?!"), but after the open sourcing of .NET I honestly think anything is possible. Espe…

They'd have to bid against Google, by this logic, since Go also moved to Github recently.

Sorry I didn't mean to vote you down, my baby daughter hit my hand while I was holding the mouse. I can't seem to find a way change my vote; is there one?

Re: We are moving the Roslyn code to GitHub

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Post by farresito »

Watabou wrote: post #54
farresito wrote: post #50

What were they previously using before the switch to git? Mercurial?

git != Github. Github just hosts git repositories. You can use git and not host on Github. They were using git, but hosting the repository on CodePlex.

They were not using git. It clearly says in the text that they are switching to git internally, as well.

Re: We are moving the Roslyn code to GitHub

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Post by bborud »

tankenmate wrote: post #78
SwellJoe wrote: post #35

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They'd have to bid against Google, by this logic, since Go also moved to Github recently.

Sorry I didn't mean to vote you down, my baby daughter hit my hand while I was holding the mouse. I can't seem to find a way change my vote; is there one?

I voted him up for you. :-)
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