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Re: Intel Compute Stick

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Not sure it applies to this, since it doesn't have a screen. Windows is used in a lot of embedded applications, and I think we still charge for that (disclaimer: unknowledgeable Microsoft employee).

They'll go great lengths to prevent Linux from getting any more exposure than Windows on any format. A zero or negative-cost license is to be expected.

For embedded applications? Those aren't exactly visible; as a consumer, you can't really tell if it is running windows or not. Anyways, I'm not sure.

Re: Intel Compute Stick

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This looks awesome. Finally a piece of tech I actually want, and by Intel of all companies. The bigger consumer companies have been shuffling their feet, releasing arbitrary, very closed off pieces of tech that I don't really need. I really applaud Intel for making the tiny little PC I've been wanting for media and linux tomfoolery. The Chromecast was a no-go, and now with an apple tv, I'm feeling a little too enclos…

Web design/business fail: The page is lacking a "Register to get updates" form. I find this to be a common frustration point for industrial product companies. Their websites typically have different degrees of sucking. Hardware design fail: A male HDMI connector on something this big is a bad idea. You don't want to hang this kind of weight (imagine USB other cables connected to it) off an HDMI connector on a TV or m…

Surely you can get an extension HDMI cable if that bothers you.

Re: Intel Compute Stick

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Check out the Intel Atom Avoton and Rangley SOCs. Nice x86 cores, ECC, crypto acceleration, VT-x, passive TDP, and 4x 1/2.5gbe or 1x 10gbe depending on the serdes. I only wish they had VT-d to get sr iov. If you really need more connectivity going the trident + Intel + cumulus white box switch rate has crazy throughput per watt. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silvermont

Can you shed more light/context on "trident + intel + cumulus". I'm familiar with cumulus but not trident.

Sure. By "trident" I really mean any merchant silicon switching platform. The Broadcom Trident ASIC/chipset really kicked this market segment off in 2011/2012ish. I mentioned it specifically as products like the Juniper QFX3500 series really opened up the door for things like fat/high radix clos networks that we're seeing in production.

From memory the Trident boxes supported 640gbs of throughput on SFP+ or QSFP ports, about 10,000 prefixes/routes, a couple thousand ACL terms, 1 or 2u, and around 200watts. They cost maybe $20,000 at launch are down to $5-10,000 now depending on volume and vendor. That's great for a TOR or agg switch if you can manage the individual devices (as opposed to a switch chassis like a nexus 7K).

The other thing those really opened up is cheap as chips edge devices. 10,000 routes isnt a lot, but it works if you have limited peers or can do summarization off device like a route reflector. These chipsets, and trident in particular, also work great with things like OpenFlow as you move that expensive route computation off device to a specialized platform.

The trident platform is basically EOL'd, everyones moved on to Trident II for the most part. Trident II is like 100,000 prefixes, 50,000 ACLs, 1 or 2u, 200 to 400 watts, 1.2TBs of forwarding, and SFP+/QSFP ports. Price is $15-25,000 depending on volume and vendor etc. Pushing 640gbs of throughput for ~$20,000 is pretty crazy. It means I could build a single 10kVa server rack that pushes a legit 1tbs of traffic to the internets for about $200,000. Totally insane to think about compared to just a few years ago.

The next big change should be moving from 10/40 serdes to 25/100 in the next year or so. The Broadcom Tomahawk should be like 3tbs in 2u and a couple hundred watts for comparable prices. If you need to convert between 10/40 and 25/100 ("gearbox") cost and complexity will go up a bit.

http://etherealmind.com/merchant-silicon-vendor-software-ris... http://whiteboxswitch.com/collections/10-gigabit-ethernet-sw...

edit: and to clarify these platforms usually use Intel CPUs to run the OS/route engines. The OS/RE/HAL, like cumulus provides, is then responsible for pushing updates down to the switching asic.

Re: Intel Compute Stick

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I wonder if you could hook this up to your computer and run it like a VM but it's just a whole computer you can use from your main machine?

Well, it has wireless, so you could just use it as a remote desktop.

I actually run a Chromebook 14 with a 27 in monitor and wireless mouse and keyboard. It suits my needs. I am presently able to control my two Win7 computers through Chrome remote desktop. It seems that the Compute Stick once set up should be able to be run from any remote desktop with only power to the stick. This gives me a Win8.1 computer inside my Chrome system. I need to maintain a Win computer due to legacy issues, with some of my hobbies. I can combine all of my data from the two Win7's and an XP in one Win8.1 computer and retire a lot of old equipment. I will have to try it when I get the Compute Stick. My needs are simple, and it works for me, I am not a high end user. It will clear a lot of space on my computer desk, and fit in my computer case when I travel.

Re: Intel Compute Stick

#346

This looks awesome. Finally a piece of tech I actually want, and by Intel of all companies. The bigger consumer companies have been shuffling their feet, releasing arbitrary, very closed off pieces of tech that I don't really need. I really applaud Intel for making the tiny little PC I've been wanting for media and linux tomfoolery. The Chromecast was a no-go, and now with an apple tv, I'm feeling a little too enclos…

Haven't you heard of MK809 dongle? Quad core, much cheaper than Intel, with full Android unlike Chromecast, able to install Linux distribution: http://amzn.com/B00EE4KKDA

Re: Intel Compute Stick

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Can you shed more light/context on "trident + intel + cumulus". I'm familiar with cumulus but not trident.

Sure. By "trident" I really mean any merchant silicon switching platform. The Broadcom Trident ASIC/chipset really kicked this market segment off in 2011/2012ish. I mentioned it specifically as products like the Juniper QFX3500 series really opened up the door for things like fat/high radix clos networks that we're seeing in production. From memory the Trident boxes supported 640gbs of throughput on SFP+ or QSFP port…

Thanks, that was really helpful.

Any thoughts on the just announced Annapurna purchase? I know it's not apples to apples but would be interested to hear your thoughts.

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