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Re: Amazon vs. Jet.com

#31

They'll still lose. Amazon has Prime. They have the fastest shipping in the world. Fuck, they practically invented Just-In-Time warehouses. Amazon is diverse too; they have one of the largest clouds in the world. People know about Amazon. Amazon has tons of reviews on products too, so I know if a product is shitty or not. I order online like 3 or 4 times a year, I'm not going to pay $50 to shave a few percentage poin…

Same sort of arguments that were made against Diapers.com, and I wouldn't consider a half-billion+ acquisition during a recession losing.

Re: Amazon vs. Jet.com

#32

Once I sign up, some of the resources return 403 (IP is blocked by geoblocker ...). Went through a US proxy and can see what it's supposed to look like. The funny part is that first message that is supposed to say "Thanks! You're Jet Insider No. XXX,XXXX Share to move up the ranks" instead says: Thanks! You're Jet Insider No." I could not figure out what the hell that was supposed to mean. I guess this is just some l…

There is a number that comes after "No." which shows your spot in line. It took a few seconds after the page was rendered to show up. Also, that entire circle is in flash. That may explain why you had that kind of experience

Re: Amazon vs. Jet.com

#33
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The signup process reminds me of a ponzi-style scheme. After entering your email, you can "unlock" features or free service by referring people.

Other than having more tiers how is this any different then sign up incentives any number of other sites offer? When Uber gives you free rides for signing up other users is that a ponzi-style scheme as well?

Re: Amazon vs. Jet.com

#34

They'll still lose. Amazon has Prime. They have the fastest shipping in the world. Fuck, they practically invented Just-In-Time warehouses. Amazon is diverse too; they have one of the largest clouds in the world. People know about Amazon. Amazon has tons of reviews on products too, so I know if a product is shitty or not. I order online like 3 or 4 times a year, I'm not going to pay $50 to shave a few percentage poin…

Do you have kids? Are you a middle-class homeowner? Because I think that's where the real money is and who these guys are really targeting. Costco launched in 1980, 30+ years after Wal Mart, and won by offering less selection and lower prices. I believe there's a real opportunity here.

"Costco launched in 1980, 30+ years after Wal Mart, and won by offering less selection and lower prices. I believe there's a real opportunity here."

A website, such as jet.com is out of "sight out of mind". Unless it becomes a habit (like Amazon has for many people including me).

Costco has several advantages over a jet.com. And the Devil is in the details in terms of what made Costco a success.

1) It's not out of site in any way. You can't miss Costco if there is one in your neighborhood. You can easily miss jet.com or not think about it unless it becomes a habit.

2) Costco succeeds also by doing what Walmart does in part. Once you are in the store they get you to buy things that you didn't think that you needed. And more of it then you thought you needed. This was the concept behind Makro Self Service Wholesale in the 80's (the place that Tom Stemberg of Staples interviewed at and got the idea for Staples for. [1] (Ntim, I was at that store when it opened..)

3) Employee culture. Can be done (Zappos) online but I would say more of a benefit in a physical store (my weakest point I will agree). [2]

[1] http://www.forbes.com/sites/danschawbel/2012/07/05/tom-stemb...

[2] http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-06-06/costco-ceo-c...

Re: Amazon vs. Jet.com

#35

I went to the website. Signed up for the insider thing. It said "Share with your friends to be top 100,000 to get access". BYE! Really? Their strategy to starting a business is making a pyramid scheme?

Sign up for Jet Insider: Earn a free 6-month membership

Be in our Top 100,000: Earn early access to our site

Be in our Top 10,000: Earn a free 1-year membership

Be in our Top 1,000: Earn a free 5-year membership

Be in our Top 100: Earn a free lifetime membership

Be in our Top 10: Earn 10,000 shares of Jet stock

Be the No. 1 Insider: Earn 100,000 shares of Jet stock

Re: Amazon vs. Jet.com

#36

They'll still lose. Amazon has Prime. They have the fastest shipping in the world. Fuck, they practically invented Just-In-Time warehouses. Amazon is diverse too; they have one of the largest clouds in the world. People know about Amazon. Amazon has tons of reviews on products too, so I know if a product is shitty or not. I order online like 3 or 4 times a year, I'm not going to pay $50 to shave a few percentage poin…

"No wireless. Less space than a Nomad. Lame."

Re: Amazon vs. Jet.com

#37

They'll still lose. Amazon has Prime. They have the fastest shipping in the world. Fuck, they practically invented Just-In-Time warehouses. Amazon is diverse too; they have one of the largest clouds in the world. People know about Amazon. Amazon has tons of reviews on products too, so I know if a product is shitty or not. I order online like 3 or 4 times a year, I'm not going to pay $50 to shave a few percentage poin…

I'm open to using something else. Both myself and my partner have abandoned Amazon as we no longer get items successfully delivered within a few days, usually it takes around a week... and we were both Prime members, living in West London.

Where Amazon screwed up is the home delivery network. It's terrible. I'm sure they pay their drivers by number of attempted deliveries per hour rather than number of successful deliveries. We live in a block of flats, and we just never manage to get a delivery within several days. Eventually the home delivery people figure out we have a 24/7 365 concierge, but that still adds another day to the actual delivery whilst we wait to be notified by the concierge.

This isn't even a once or twice thing. My partner is an academic and researcher and is ordering 2-3 books per week and 1-2 DVDs per week. Nothing got delivered within a few days of ordering, over a many month period. We have lost faith in Amazon so totally, that we no longer go to them for books, let alone anything else.

If Amazon offered Royal Mail, standard post... we'd both return.

As it stands, using Amazon is absolutely useless for us, nothing arrives when we need things and it's better to use almost any other supplier. Any supplier that uses Royal Mail gets a successful delivery within 1-2 working days.

How bad is Amazon home delivery in West London? Put it like this, Christmas 2013 we bought all our gifts from Amazon, Christmas 2014 we didn't purchase a single item from Amazon.

I don't believe we're a freak exception, so there's got to be a large market of people like us who will use anything other than Amazon if the shipper will just use the postal system.

Re: Amazon vs. Jet.com

#38

They'll still lose. Amazon has Prime. They have the fastest shipping in the world. Fuck, they practically invented Just-In-Time warehouses. Amazon is diverse too; they have one of the largest clouds in the world. People know about Amazon. Amazon has tons of reviews on products too, so I know if a product is shitty or not. I order online like 3 or 4 times a year, I'm not going to pay $50 to shave a few percentage poin…

Amazon is being challenged to make money, and they are doing that by slashing the expensive part of prime (shipping) and throwing in plums like streaming media and cloud storage.

I order online from Amazon 5-6 times a month. I've had more shipping delays and misses over the last three months than I've had in the last 3 years. IMO, Prime is dying -- they wouldn't be talking about entering capital intensive businesses like shipping if it were sustainable.

Re: Amazon vs. Jet.com

#39
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Also notable is that Jet.com is using F# as the core language for their backend

It'd be great if they could blog about how F# performs and the benefits of using it. e.g. Fewer bugs, less code... How are things working in practice.

Hey, I'm Jet's VP Engineering. We'll definitely be blogging about F# and some of the other tech behind Jet in the very near future!

Re: Amazon vs. Jet.com

#40
post #32

Once I sign up, some of the resources return 403 (IP is blocked by geoblocker ...). Went through a US proxy and can see what it's supposed to look like. The funny part is that first message that is supposed to say "Thanks! You're Jet Insider No. XXX,XXXX Share to move up the ranks" instead says: Thanks! You're Jet Insider No." I could not figure out what the hell that was supposed to mean. I guess this is just some l…

There is a number that comes after "No." which shows your spot in line. It took a few seconds after the page was rendered to show up. Also, that entire circle is in flash. That may explain why you had that kind of experience

There's no flash on there except for some thing for copying the referral URI to the clipboard.
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