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How my life was changed when I began caring about the people I did not hire

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Re: How my life was changed when I began caring about the people I did not hire

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Post by deedubaya »

When you hire for a person, you find that personality traits are much more important than what an applicant has done in the past, including passion, drive, etc.

When you hire to fill a position, all this goes out the window the applicant goes into the hiring lottery pool to maybe get an interview, and then the traditional "You could totally goog this IRL, but I'm going to hire you based off your memory" type of hiring.

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deedubaya wrote: post #3

When you hire for a person , you find that personality traits are much more important than what an applicant has done in the past, including passion, drive, etc. When you hire to fill a position, all this goes out the window the applicant goes into the hiring lottery pool to maybe get an interview, and then the traditional "You could totally goog this IRL, but I'm going to hire you based off your memory" type of hiri…

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Re: How my life was changed when I began caring about the people I did not hire

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Post by seagreen »

"So, here is my answer to the question, “What do we owe the people who we do not hire?”

    1. Information on where they stand.
    2. An explanation of what they are doing wrong.
    3. Help improving."
Nope! You don't owe them those things. Good for the author that they tried it and it worked out, but it's not a general rule.

Everything works smoother in lots of different parts of life if all parties understand the concept of a Clean No. Not "You can say No but then you still owe me such and such". Just "No." Anything beyond that is a gift.

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Post by JeremyMorgan »

The first time I got a front page link to my site on HN, it did this exact same thing, which prompted me to move away from Wordpress. Static HTML ever since.

But to comment on the article, I think this is a fantastic idea. I do wonder though how he found so many enthusiastic people. Maybe it's just a new era, but I have a hard time finding people who even want to do a 1 hour coding challenge. He got these folks who were willing to learn something, and build and spend DAYS on it? It's awesome but it seems unlikely these days.

Taking that kind of time to choose the right person, then helping the other people network with other APL folks... that just spreads good vibes all around. I would like to see the "care more" trend spread in our industry. Even now with a programmer shortage companies are still unicorn hunting and making people jump through stupid hoops for jobs.

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Post by ChuckMcM »

Money quote : "I started No Shortage of Work to encourage my unemployed friends to re-frame their status not as a disaster but as an opportunity to explore new vistas."

This is something which people often forget, is that learning needs to happen life long, it isn't a 'did college, check that box.' kind of thing, its about always learning. Its the first thing I check for when I look at people to hire.

Re: How my life was changed when I began caring about the people I did not hire

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Post by sosuke »

Yhippa wrote: post #5

In the US are there legal reasons why employers generally are tight-lipped about why a candidate didn't get hired?

I've always thought so, and I figure it is a case of our sue-happy culture and a cover your ass tactic "anything you say can and will be used against you" kind of fear. I'd love to have reached out to some applicants in the past to offer help, but what if they don't want any?

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Post by gkop »

JeremyMorgan wrote: post #7

The first time I got a front page link to my site on HN, it did this exact same thing, which prompted me to move away from Wordpress. Static HTML ever since. But to comment on the article, I think this is a fantastic idea. I do wonder though how he found so many enthusiastic people. Maybe it's just a new era, but I have a hard time finding people who even want to do a 1 hour coding challenge. He got these folks who w…

Fyi, the author is a man.
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