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A Teenager’s View on Social Media

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Re: A Teenager’s View on Social Media

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Uh.. Could it be that people under 13 are not allowed on Facebook?

People under 18 also aren't allowed to watch porn, and people under 21 definitely can't drink.

There's a pretty big difference between grabbing content off some site and establishing a social media presence, surely?

Re: A Teenager’s View on Social Media

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An American Teenager's View on Social Media There, much better now.

A North American Teenager's View on Social Media Even better. Though I'm sure someone from North America could improve on that title. FWIW, I thought it was a very well-written piece which outlined some of the subjective pros and cons of various social media. As someone who doesn't spend any time on any of the social network sites and who barely uses a smart-phone, I found it to be quite informative. Edit: After post…

American is predominantly used to mean a US national or more generally "a person born, raised, or living in the U.S."

Canadians, who are "North Americans," are predominantly culturally similar to Americans.

Mexicans, who are also "North Americans", are not culturally so similar to Americans.

So your deliberate "confusion" about the word American produced an even sillier result: "A North American (excluding Mexicans) Teenager's View on Social Media"

Re: A Teenager’s View on Social Media

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Models most of my use, however I like WhatsApp a lot. I used it when I still had a Windows Phone (iPhone 6 now) and I needed a better messaging app that went over the web than facebook because I had horrible service on campus. It's a very capable, simple, reliable (or used to be anyways), and feature filled messaging app which I wish more people used. iMessage does most of what WhatsApp does though for talking to iOS users and it has a desktop app so I use that more now.

I almost refuse to use facebook except to share select photos/videos privately (only me + tagged people) and message people who I haven't talked to in a while. Groups are usually never useful and I use other things.

Twitter is great, tumblr is good but not for me, snapchat isn't for me (too obvious you're taking a photo of your self), and instagram still makes me feel the facebook "it'll never die on the internet once uploaded" scary feeling.

Re: A Teenager’s View on Social Media

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many have nailed this on the head. It’s dead to us. The next few paragraphs then go on to describe Facebook as essential social plumbing. I think an FB product manager would be delighted to hear that Facebook is "dead" in this way. This is precisely why the most successful social network of its generation was built, first and foremost, to be a platform rather than a cocktail party.

I think that Facebook's NewsFeed is the biggest mess and the over-algorithmization just killed that product. People don't want to have fancy algorithms sorting their lives. Rather have people decide what they want to see. They aren't geeks like we are. I'm usually delighted when I see heat map and sorting alg based on heatmaps and heavy machine learning. But these kids? They don't care that you have there 2k developers sitting and optimizing news feed. Once you have there an ad and you start "hidding" content, you are done. Ironically, I think that it's the over-thinking of NewsFeed what set FB to this position. The worst on this is, that the guys from Twitter are doing the exact same mistake.

Simple simple simple, simplicity is the key for teens. You see these examples all around - Snapchat & Instagram & YikYak - these are all simple services. I bet you once Instagram starts introducing "smart" sorting of feed, they will be abandoned by teens in a instance.

Re: A Teenager’s View on Social Media

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This is filled with gems that old farts like me (I'm 30) don't have any idea about. If I don’t get any likes on my Instagram photo or Facebook post within 15 minutes you can sure bet I'll delete it. Super interesting take - it's as though they are posting not to show people stuff but to get people's approval for what they are posting. Simple but critically different in my opinion. Facebook is often used by us mainly…

These are mostly phone apps, so to launch the app that wants their attention, they just click the notification. Doesn't matter much at all which app, or where the icon is on their screen, since it's just the one place that launches everything.

Re: A Teenager’s View on Social Media

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This is filled with gems that old farts like me (I'm 30) don't have any idea about. If I don’t get any likes on my Instagram photo or Facebook post within 15 minutes you can sure bet I'll delete it. Super interesting take - it's as though they are posting not to show people stuff but to get people's approval for what they are posting. Simple but critically different in my opinion. Facebook is often used by us mainly…

> so make a better group service and bring everyone to that.

Email? Works like a charm for my friends, and no vendor lock-in.

Re: A Teenager’s View on Social Media

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I was teaching a lesson on cryptography to a bunch of twelve year olds this morning, and with reference to https, I asked how many had used Facebook before school - no hands, how about Instagram - no hands, how about Snapchat - half the class put their hands up. It's definitely the most popular network amongst teens in my (UK) school.

Uh.. Could it be that people under 13 are not allowed on Facebook?

From the instagram terms (http://instagram.com/about/legal/terms/) you must be at least 13 to use instagram.

Re: A Teenager’s View on Social Media

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Something I noticed growing up, even when I was a teen, was stuff like "what teens think today" seemed bullshity and something certain adults wanted to hear, which often never reflected my experiences. In this case, the HN-friendly Facebook bashing. Now as a middle-aged adult, its obvious its questionable writing. Its either PR of some kind or a half-assed article by someone with a teenage daughter and a deadline. A…

This. I mean, I can understand obsessing about the teen / YA demographic if that's who you're selling to, but the idea that what they do represents some ground-shaking historical shift, and not just a (fairly well-understood) phase in normal human lives is just ridiculous. For me, one of the most interesting things about this piece was the total bafflement with Twitter. Not that they didn't like it, they just didn't…

Teenagers do not understand Twitter because Twitter is high school for adults.
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