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A Teenager’s View on Social Media

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Re: A Teenager’s View on Social Media

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It is interesting to see that for example in Germany WhatsApp is really the most important chat and group discussion instrument -- ahead of all other messengers. I wonder where this difference comes from...?

Re: A Teenager’s View on Social Media

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I remember reading something similar from a Korean kid 10 years ago, she said "email is for older people". I wonder if this kid uses email? The only time I see something Google+ related is occasional notifications on my gmail interface.

It's 50/50 that I even have my friends email addresses. Facebook messaging covers 99% of the need.

But, don't you need an email address to sign up to these sites in the first place?

Re: A Teenager’s View on Social Media

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> we wouldn't dream of not being on FB And 10 years ago I wouldn't dream of not having my ICQ friends. Your dreams are not the /most/ relevant.

I am not talking about the future, I'm talking about right now, at this moment. I can't predict the future but I can give my view point from this point in time and that's what I've done. I'm sorry that's not good enough for you.

Your reply was in reference to the future, so it's logical for a reader to assume that's what you were talking about.

> If specialized apps start to show up, people may start ditching FB altogether.

Re: A Teenager’s View on Social Media

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"Facebook is dead to us but we use it for X,Y, and Z." I found this kinda funny. Obviously it's not dead to you if you use it for a variety of purposes. Seems like friends I have with teenage kids are mostly on Facebook. Now it may not be their primary outlet. But "dead" seems to be a bit of an exaggeration.

"its dead to us (as a means of expressing ourselves)" is how I read that particular quote, and it certainly resonates with me as a twenty something male. I'm sure it's even more true for younger people. It's necessary because of how ubiquitous it is but I'm not sure that (in the context of social media) is necessarily good news for Facebook.

Re: A Teenager’s View on Social Media

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This is filled with gems that old farts like me (I'm 30) don't have any idea about. If I don’t get any likes on my Instagram photo or Facebook post within 15 minutes you can sure bet I'll delete it. Super interesting take - it's as though they are posting not to show people stuff but to get people's approval for what they are posting. Simple but critically different in my opinion. Facebook is often used by us mainly…

>Got it, so make a better group service and bring everyone to that.

You are going to need significant value-add to convince people to bootstrap their identities and social graph all over again. Snapchat did it by piggybacking on "people who have each other's phone numbers." Tumblr did it by not doing it - the social network is deliberately separate, and you have to be much closer to someone for them to tell you their Tumblr URL.

I will never use your service if I have to sign up, confirm my email address, add friends, convince them to sign up and actually check it, etc. Decentralization is the surest way to destroy user experience. Facebook already knows me and everyone I know in real life. Why would I not just use it?

Re: A Teenager’s View on Social Media

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many have nailed this on the head. It’s dead to us. The next few paragraphs then go on to describe Facebook as essential social plumbing. I think an FB product manager would be delighted to hear that Facebook is "dead" in this way. This is precisely why the most successful social network of its generation was built, first and foremost, to be a platform rather than a cocktail party.

What he's saying is that Facebook is a great contacts directory, because everyone is on it. But most of the other features are useless.

(Recently, most of the features of Facebook broke for the combo of Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, Firefox 34, and Ghostery. Messaging and notifications still work most of the time, but many of the other features just stall, probably waiting for some tracker. This turns out to be a feature, not a bug. No ads, no timeline, no crap.)

Re: A Teenager’s View on Social Media

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Re: "These are all just anecdotes" - yes, he made it very clear in the beginning of his essay: "This article will not use any studies, data, sources, etc. This is because you can easily get that from any other technology news website and analyze from there. I’m here to provide a different view based off of my life in this “highly coveted” age bracket. That being said, I'm not an expert at this by a long shot and I'm…

Yeah, except that is basically saying his analysis is worthless, in my honest opinion. Combine this with the fact that he is clearly biased towards Snapchat (just look at his personal Twitter and blog), yet doesn't disclose that fact, and you get a bad article that is taken way more seriously than it should be. Its similar to that fake radar app that claims it detects police radar from your smartphone then at the bot…

Sorry, that's only your opinion and as you haven't provided any real data to back it up, so it must be worthless.

Re: A Teenager’s View on Social Media

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This is filled with gems that old farts like me (I'm 30) don't have any idea about. If I don’t get any likes on my Instagram photo or Facebook post within 15 minutes you can sure bet I'll delete it. Super interesting take - it's as though they are posting not to show people stuff but to get people's approval for what they are posting. Simple but critically different in my opinion. Facebook is often used by us mainly…

It's not necessarily approval, but trying to start a conversation. If something gets no response after a while, it means nobody wants to talk about it so you might as well delete it. Otherwise it feels like talking to a wall.

> Otherwise it feels like talking to a wall.

And if you do want to do that, then don't worry, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_walls is here to help.

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