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Life in New York City, Where Arrests Are Down and Tickets Are Rarities

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Re: Life in New York City, Where Arrests Are Down and Tickets Are Rarities

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New York public employees cannot strike, so this is the labor action available to them.

The union should think carefully though. If life just goes on without the nanny-state tickets and other revenue generators, the thought process may change. Maybe more fare jumping and double-parking would be ok, and we can live with that -- but with 10,000 fewer policemen.

10,000 * $100,000 = less need for ticket revenue.

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If these minor offenses are not affecting crime then are they offenses whose only purpose is to generate revenue? If the city has not imploded then is that not sufficient evidence to get a discussion about the existence of these offenses?

I would guess that there hasn't been enough time for people to realize their minor infractions will no longer get punished.

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I think this most recent trend in the police department has a huge potential to backfire. Perhaps this will highlight the fact that in the US, our lives have become over-criminalized and over-monitored by an increasingly growing police force and that we simply don't need so many officers and laws. This would be a good thing in America.

However, I hate the fact that this change was brought about by the deaths of people.

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As someone who fancies libertarianism but who's wary of its effectiveness in practice, I'm hoping we get to see this impromptu social experiment play out long enough to gather some useful statistics.

Err, extreme things like that really need to be entered into democratically rather than a very small minority foisting it on a city of millions. Especially when we're discussing public safety. I hope this ends quickly and conclusively.

Re: Life in New York City, Where Arrests Are Down and Tickets Are Rarities

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As someone who fancies libertarianism but who's wary of its effectiveness in practice, I'm hoping we get to see this impromptu social experiment play out long enough to gather some useful statistics.

I'm in agreement though I hope they keep enough of a presence and focus on major crimes such that we don't start seeing an increase in murders or rapes or something to that effect.

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If these minor offenses are not affecting crime then are they offenses whose only purpose is to generate revenue? If the city has not imploded then is that not sufficient evidence to get a discussion about the existence of these offenses?

I would guess that there hasn't been enough time for people to realize their minor infractions will no longer get punished.

One of the people quoted in the article says "Of course that’s a good thing, because the traffic officers just want your money," he said on Tuesday morning in Queens. "Now I have the right to park a bit more."

I suppose he still understands that he is not really supposed to park where he is parking, but it says something about his outlook.

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