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Re: Intel Compute Stick

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Post by afro88 »

johnvschmitt wrote: post #91

Cool. Close, but not what I need. What I want (& maybe others?) is: Compute on a stick that's a VM. Then, I can plug this into my laptop's HDMI or USB port to work on my project's local data/apps that's inside the VM. Then I can take the stick when I travel, instead of taking my laptop. I can plug the stick into any laptop for full keyboard/trackpad. Or, I could plug the stick into a TV/monitor & use my phone/tablet'…

This is totally unfeasible unfortunately. Either you support running the VM on the stick inside the host device's OS (supporting every major OS), without requiring root access nor installing anything. Or you boot from the stick and include display, keyboard and mouse/trackpad/touch drivers for every potential device you're going to plug it into. And for your last option (TV/monitor using phone/tablet IO) you'll also need an app for Android, iOS, Windows Mobile etc.

Re: Intel Compute Stick

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Post by libria »

damian2000 wrote: post #80

If they support a keyboard and mouse via USB then wouldn't supplying power to 2 USB ports be an issue? Assuming the stick itself gets its power from HDMI.

Doubtful. Both Chromecast and Firestick require an external power source. Only TV's that support MHL can deliver power from the TV. I'm guessing that for wider adoption, this will not rely on that feature.

Re: Intel Compute Stick

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Post by ac29 »

fidotron wrote: post #53

Hardware like that makes me yearn for one with no wireless and a pair of Gigabit Ethernet ports to use as a firewall and server. It's fairly interesting to note what it's not: Android or Chrome OS. I suspect Microsoft will do quite well out of this, especially in the digital signage market, anywhere which is reasonably price sensitive but if developer time and cost can be reduced then they get a lot of leeway. Still,…

> Most of the cost here is Intel margin

Hard to say. Intel has taken a loss on their mobile division lately [1], and I'm assuming this is a mobile-class processor. ARM has had them spooked, enough to make a major shift into mobile-first development and offering heavy discounts (or perhaps even selling at cost or at a loss) on mobile hardware.

[1] http://www.zdnet.com/article/intel-to-merge-pc-and-mobile-pr...!

Re: Intel Compute Stick

#104

Post by jrockway »

chrismsnz wrote: post #66
fidotron wrote: post #53

Hardware like that makes me yearn for one with no wireless and a pair of Gigabit Ethernet ports to use as a firewall and server. It's fairly interesting to note what it's not: Android or Chrome OS. I suspect Microsoft will do quite well out of this, especially in the digital signage market, anywhere which is reasonably price sensitive but if developer time and cost can be reduced then they get a lot of leeway. Still,…

> Hardware like that makes me yearn for one with no wireless and a pair of Gigabit Ethernet ports to use as a firewall and server. Unfortunately, general purpose hardware and operating system needs a fair amount of juice to route and inspect 1gbps of traffic. Best performance per watt I've found is the Edgerouter Lite but that has dedicated routing acceleration hardware to achieve what it does with the little mips pr…

There are ARM CPUs available that do network forwarding in hardware. Some even support iptables rules.

I would be very surprised if a quad-core current-gen Atom could not do that in software, though. I could route 300Mbps through OpenBSD's pf on an AMD Geode.

Re: Intel Compute Stick

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Post by rab_oof »

chrismsnz wrote: post #66
fidotron wrote: post #53

Hardware like that makes me yearn for one with no wireless and a pair of Gigabit Ethernet ports to use as a firewall and server. It's fairly interesting to note what it's not: Android or Chrome OS. I suspect Microsoft will do quite well out of this, especially in the digital signage market, anywhere which is reasonably price sensitive but if developer time and cost can be reduced then they get a lot of leeway. Still,…

> Hardware like that makes me yearn for one with no wireless and a pair of Gigabit Ethernet ports to use as a firewall and server. Unfortunately, general purpose hardware and operating system needs a fair amount of juice to route and inspect 1gbps of traffic. Best performance per watt I've found is the Edgerouter Lite but that has dedicated routing acceleration hardware to achieve what it does with the little mips pr…

L7 SPI is expensive whereas simple routing of 1 Gbps usually demands only a single core and 64-128 MiB of RAM. Large production shops have such FE load balancer / router boxes in HA mode (ie CARP) that barely break a sweat.

Re: Intel Compute Stick

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Post by erkose »

fidotron wrote: post #53

Hardware like that makes me yearn for one with no wireless and a pair of Gigabit Ethernet ports to use as a firewall and server. It's fairly interesting to note what it's not: Android or Chrome OS. I suspect Microsoft will do quite well out of this, especially in the digital signage market, anywhere which is reasonably price sensitive but if developer time and cost can be reduced then they get a lot of leeway. Still,…

"Pre-installed with Windows 8.1* or Linux"

Re: Intel Compute Stick

#108

Post by chavesn »

Too bad the plug is on the end... my guess is that it's impossible to pick an arrangement that works for every TV, but this seems likely to be a problem for wall-mounted TVs like the one in the picture.

Re: Intel Compute Stick

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Post by rab_oof »

discardorama wrote: post #75
aditya wrote: post #40

$149 for Windows 8.1 version and $89 for Linux version, not bad. via: http://techreport.com/news/27619/intel-compute-stick-is-a-14...

... and the Linux version will have half the RAM (1GB instead of 2GB) and a fourth the storage (8GB instead of 32GB). I think I might pass on this.

Yup. Seems like pointless, instant-gratification consumerism when server boxes are far faster, cheaper and greener. Worse, it's an un-upgradable device to buy and throw away. Anyone that needs more horsepower, it's far simpler to either trade up, use a real server or just use a cloud/VPS similar to AWS.

Re: Intel Compute Stick

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Post by ariwilson »

libria wrote: post #102
damian2000 wrote: post #80

If they support a keyboard and mouse via USB then wouldn't supplying power to 2 USB ports be an issue? Assuming the stick itself gets its power from HDMI.

Doubtful. Both Chromecast and Firestick require an external power source. Only TV's that support MHL can deliver power from the TV. I'm guessing that for wider adoption, this will not rely on that feature.

Chromecast can be powered by a USB port on the TV itself. Fire Stick cannot.
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