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Re: Why I Quit OS X – Geoff Wozniak

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Post by sixbrx » Sun, Jan 04, 2015, 4:24 PM UTC

ridiculous_fish wrote: post #290

jqm wrote: post #90

Admittedly I've never used OS X and have been a Linux user for years (so I may have picked up some things along the way that seem like second nature now), but I've not had any troubles that so many talk about. i3 and KDE do everything I need wonderfully. How much better are Firefox and Thunderbird on OS X? And media players and terminals? Because other than a calculator or an occasional spreadsheet, those are about t…

The OS X terminals, both the built-in Terminal.app and iTerm 2, are better than what I have found in Linux so far. Both do automatic text wrapping and reflow it on window resize, which is hard to find on Linux terminals. Also, neither relies on the control key for menu item key equivalents. Copy is Command-C, SIGINT is Control-C. On Linux, Control-C is copy everywhere except in terminal windows; there Control-C is SI…

For copy/paste on Linux, I use ctrl/shift + insert. Seems to work everywhere including command line.

Re: Why I Quit OS X – Geoff Wozniak

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Post by acdha » Sun, Jan 04, 2015, 4:26 PM UTC

jonhohle wrote: post #32

While I haven't switched to another OS, Yosemite has been the worst release of OS X that I've used (I've been an OS X user since Jaguar). The general rule is to wait until at least 10.x.1 (or later), but even now, there are still bugs that indicate that there is little to no structure release or QA process at Apple, and it's likely that few teams have gotten the religion of testing. * In 10.0.0, systems on Exchange i…

Have you tried this with a fresh account? I've only seen one of those problems (Mail being stealthy about Exchange calendar replies except for deleting the message). The fact that you're seeing graphical glitches sounds like you might have a hardware problem which could also explain the corrupted data.

Re: Why I Quit OS X – Geoff Wozniak

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Post by hisyam » Sun, Jan 04, 2015, 4:28 PM UTC

_almosnow wrote: post #305

hisyam wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> My last 3 laptops had been Mac's (a White Macbook, then a Macbook Pro from 2010, then a Retina Macbook Pro from these days...) and while I feel 'satisfied' I also kind of noticed that performance is always worse, and somehow the morethe more I upgrade, the more I feel like a pain the ass when I use that computer. Are you using SSD or normal HDD?

SSD on retina.

How much RAM?

Re: Why I Quit OS X – Geoff Wozniak

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Post by acdha » Sun, Jan 04, 2015, 4:30 PM UTC

tach4n wrote: post #242

I'm convinced there is a real productivity loss due to OSX's limited notifications system. On OSX you get a tiny little bubble in the upper right from your chat program and if you miss it, too bad. I've seen people resorting to shouting or tapping on shoulders because of this. Trying to do something as simple as change the font size was difficult or impossible. On linux I get nice big notifications. If I miss or choo…

1. As others have pointed out, you can change the style to alert

2. The system notification center (the icon on the upper right corner or a two-finger swipe from the right on a trackpad) lists every notification you haven't cancelled:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/q0o7gq7ndcbokin/Screenshot%202015-...

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Post by SeanLuke » Sun, Jan 04, 2015, 4:55 PM UTC

orangecat wrote: post #174

SeanLuke wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I now have to do 10 extra steps just to Save As. I feel your pain. Fortunately you can have Save As back: System Preferences -> Keyboards -> Shortcuts -> App Shortcuts. Add a shortcut called "Save As..." with Command-Shift-S. Magically, Duplicate is gone.

Thank you! Actually Duplicate is still there for me, but that's fine.

Sorry, you also need to assign Command-Option-Shift-S to Duplicate. Then Duplicate will magically be hidden behind Save As... in the way that Save As... was previously hidden behind Duplicate. [That is, when you hold the option key down, Duplicate changed to Save As...]. Otherwise they'll be shown together in the menu.

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Post by mark_l_watson » Sun, Jan 04, 2015, 4:56 PM UTC

After running Yosemite from an upgrade for a long while, I recently did a complete disk wipe and a fresh install without using my time machine backups. This is just one data point, but the effort was worthwhile because my system feels faster and more solid.

I had done Time machine installs for years, and I probably had a lot of cruft.

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Post by _almosnow » Sun, Jan 04, 2015, 5:08 PM UTC

hisyam wrote: post #453

_almosnow wrote: post #305

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SSD on retina.

How much RAM?

8GB

Re: Why I Quit OS X – Geoff Wozniak

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Post by tmikaeld » Sun, Jan 04, 2015, 5:15 PM UTC

I'm amazed that no one talks about the issue of Applications on Linux... I've been running OS X as the main OS for the last 6 years and Windows since before that ever since Windows 3.0.

Also tried most of the *nix favours throughout the years - but so far the apps have been unable to replace those on OS X.

What i failed to find as replacement on Linux:

- User friendly two-way firewall like Hands Off! or Little Snitch.

- File-organizer app like Hazel.

- Multi-tab-column file-browser like Pathfinder.

- Screenshot + annotation manager/editor like Voila.

- Window layout manager like Moom.

- Adobe Creative Suite (Yes, i can run it in a VM - but it's s l o w!)

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Post by RamenShaman » Sun, Jan 04, 2015, 5:28 PM UTC

davidbarker wrote: post #151

brianstorms wrote: post #101

I haven't quit it, but the problems, annoyances, surprises, seeming ineptitude, and creeping iOSification of OS X that the author describes sure do resonate. Every new major release of OS X is a day or week spent disabling things, shutting down Spotlight again, trying to restore things back to the way they were instead of the way some Designer with a capital D thinks they should be, for no other reason than, "Beauty.…

I agree RE: Duplicate/Save As…, although you can get Save As… back if you hold down the Option key. I don't remember when I last used Duplicate.

Thank you for this, I had no idea. Further, I have no idea how I would have found out about this if not for stumbling across it randomly online, as the menubar is simply not a place where I expect options to be changeable and there's nothing in the menu to suggest option will modify it.

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Post by akulbe » Sun, Jan 04, 2015, 5:33 PM UTC

I am >I used to confidently recommend OS X to people as something that "just works". I can no longer do so. It's a buggy steaming pile.

For me, one of the things that made OS X so easy to use was the quality of the third-party apps. Right now, I have no less than 80 third-party apps installed on my MBP. I keep telling myself that that is a LOT of money to invest, to walk away. But then I remind myself that is the "sunken cost fallacy"... I cannot get the money back.

I wish that many of the same third-party apps existed for Linux. I'd be HAPPY to pay top dollar for stuff on Linux, just like I did on OS X. But at this point, it's just not there.

I will go back to using Linux as my main machine, and LOTS of workarounds for the productivity apps I have on OS X.

I already have a ThinkPad W530 that is an absolute beast of a machine (32GB of RAM, 3 SSDs w/2.1TB of usable space), but I may trade in my MBP for a Chromebook Pixel. At this point, it's closer to "just works" than anything Apple is offering. :/