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Why I Quit OS X – Geoff Wozniak

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Re: Why I Quit OS X – Geoff Wozniak

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Post by carlivar »

crag wrote: post #274
TD-Linux wrote: post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why can't you migrate your music collection away from iTunes? I thought the DRM was killed long ago.

Know a good music player for Windows? And don't tell me Windows Media Player. :)

I moved to Linux (Ubuntu) and migrated a HUGE iTunes library along with it. I now use Clementine as my music management / player. I believe there's a way to import an iTunes library, but the iTunes metadata is all in one big XML file. So I wrote a script that loads all my metadata into Clementine's sqlite database.

Re: Why I Quit OS X – Geoff Wozniak

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Post by PhasmaFelis »

caryhartline wrote: post #16

Um, okay? This is like being told why someone switched office chairs. This only got to the top of Hacker News because of this guy's last name.

You don't think that the pros and cons of different operating systems are germaine to hackers? I don't get it.

Re: Why I Quit OS X – Geoff Wozniak

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Post by PhasmaFelis »

caryhartline wrote: post #16

Um, okay? This is like being told why someone switched office chairs. This only got to the top of Hacker News because of this guy's last name.

You don't think that the pros and cons of different operating systems are germaine to hackers? I don't get it.

Re: Why I Quit OS X – Geoff Wozniak

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Post by 0xCMP »

ggreer wrote: post #11

It's important to notice that he's switching to a desktop running linux. Running linux on laptops is still a gamble. Sometimes things work great. Sometimes you spend months trying to fix basic stuff like screen brightness[1][2] on hardware certified by Ubuntu.[3] I think there's a market for a linux distro that targets a limited set of premium hardware. I'd gladly pay money for an OS that worked out of the box on any…

I'm adding this here because you gave me the idea indirectly... but what if there were a Linux Distro that targeted OS X? To make a Linux or FreeBSD version of the "Just Works" experience?

Re: Why I Quit OS X – Geoff Wozniak

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Post by ridiculous_fish »

yourad_io wrote: post #208
tedunangst wrote: post #193

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OS X upgrades are free, more like Windows Service Packs in a way. Microsoft also drops support for pre-SP versions of Windows after a time. The clock is ticking for Windows 8.0; you have to upgrade to 8.1.

Free upgrades can still come at a cost. Multi-monitor full-screen was broken from 10.7 through 10.8. Thousands complained, Apple claimed it a feature. Not fixable, not tweakable, not reversible. 10.6 or one full-screen monitor at a time. Fuck off, Apple.

I worked on the full screen feature in 10.7 through 10.9!

Full screen in 10.7 and 10.8 did render secondary displays useless. But it was a new feature in 10.7, so there was nothing to reverse. You can't take Safari, Mail, etc. full screen in 10.6.

Perhaps there was an app you used that switched from a custom full screen implementation to the system one, and so regressed on secondary displays?

Re: Why I Quit OS X – Geoff Wozniak

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Post by everyone »

crag wrote: post #274
TD-Linux wrote: post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why can't you migrate your music collection away from iTunes? I thought the DRM was killed long ago.

Know a good music player for Windows? And don't tell me Windows Media Player. :)

Winamp is still my preference.

Re: Why I Quit OS X – Geoff Wozniak

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Post by wickawic »

0xCMP wrote: post #324
ggreer wrote: post #11

It's important to notice that he's switching to a desktop running linux. Running linux on laptops is still a gamble. Sometimes things work great. Sometimes you spend months trying to fix basic stuff like screen brightness[1][2] on hardware certified by Ubuntu.[3] I think there's a market for a linux distro that targets a limited set of premium hardware. I'd gladly pay money for an OS that worked out of the box on any…

I'm adding this here because you gave me the idea indirectly... but what if there were a Linux Distro that targeted OS X? To make a Linux or FreeBSD version of the "Just Works" experience?

I've always wondered why this wasn't the case already. The great part about targeting Apple hardware is that there isn't that much of it (comparatively).

Re: Why I Quit OS X – Geoff Wozniak

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Post by badsock »

ryukafalz wrote: post #313
badsock wrote: post #307

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You can switch to Linux, but unfortunately it's been degrading along similar lines. Big, wrong ideas are destructive, and the two biggest, wrongest ones right now seem to be: "desktops are just out-of-date tablets", and "the only good affordance is a dead affordance". Affordances are what make computers humane, and there's a world of difference between how phones are used (mostly social), tablets are used (mostly med…

I disagree regarding the "tablet" point - while the major DEs take some UI inspiration from tablets, in general they're still very much desktop-oriented. People often complain about Unity for being "too much like a tablet", but actually try using it on a tablet and it's not well-suited at all in its current form. You might want to look at KDE and XFCE though - both are sticking more to traditional Linux desktop ideas…

I don't think we actually disagree. The tablet/desktop convergence is them trying to sit between two barstools - true that they're still mostly toward desktop, but they aimed for both and hit neither.

And agreed on your second point, using XFCE right now.

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Post by pervycreeper »

mattkrea wrote: post #317
pervycreeper wrote: post #199

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No (non-chrome) distro currently works out of the box on the c720 (at least among the x64 variants). The most convenient solution at the moment involves recompiling the kernel after every security upgrade, which is hardly ideal.

While technically you're right the worst I have to do is pay attention when a kernel upgrade is part of apt-get dist-upgrade and then run a single script then reboot.

>the worst I have to do is pay attention

Well, that does kinda destroy the convenience of apt.

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