Baseline Mac OS X Support merged into FreeBSD package manager

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Post by emaste » Fri, Jan 02, 2015, 10:14 PM UTC

Baseline Mac OS X Support merged into FreeBSD package manager
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Re: Baseline Mac OS X Support merged into FreeBSD package manager

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Post by santaclaus » Fri, Jan 02, 2015, 10:45 PM UTC

Interesting! What is the advantage of the FreeBSD package manager over existing OS X package managers like Homebrew or MacPorts?

Re: Baseline Mac OS X Support merged into FreeBSD package manager

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Post by oellegaard » Fri, Jan 02, 2015, 10:51 PM UTC

santaclaus wrote: post #2

Interesting! What is the advantage of the FreeBSD package manager over existing OS X package managers like Homebrew or MacPorts?

It's a binary package manager vs homebrew that downloads the source, patches it and compiles it AFAIK.

Re: Baseline Mac OS X Support merged into FreeBSD package manager

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Post by bitroliest » Fri, Jan 02, 2015, 10:53 PM UTC

oellegaard wrote: post #3

santaclaus wrote: post #2

Interesting! What is the advantage of the FreeBSD package manager over existing OS X package managers like Homebrew or MacPorts?

It's a binary package manager vs homebrew that downloads the source, patches it and compiles it AFAIK.

Homebrew can "bottle" binary packages and "pour" them on install also.

https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/blob/master/share/doc/h...

Re: Baseline Mac OS X Support merged into FreeBSD package manager

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Post by ics » Fri, Jan 02, 2015, 10:53 PM UTC

santaclaus wrote: post #2

Interesting! What is the advantage of the FreeBSD package manager over existing OS X package managers like Homebrew or MacPorts?

This might not answer your question completely, but here's a thread from the last time I recall this discussion happening: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8402542

It's been a while since I used MacPorts, but I imagine there is some benefit to using the same packaging system between OSs and not having all package descriptions as executable ruby scripts.

Re: Baseline Mac OS X Support merged into FreeBSD package manager

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Post by emaste » Fri, Jan 02, 2015, 10:56 PM UTC

santaclaus wrote: post #2

Interesting! What is the advantage of the FreeBSD package manager over existing OS X package managers like Homebrew or MacPorts?

This change was written by Landon Fuller, one of the founders of MacPorts. There's an explanation for it in a comment on the pull request: https://github.com/freebsd/pkg/pull/1113#issuecomment-680639...

This change doesn't mean very much in isolation, but will hopefully be the beginning of some interesting collaboration by packagers on both platforms.

Re: Baseline Mac OS X Support merged into FreeBSD package manager

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Post by aduitsis » Fri, Jan 02, 2015, 10:57 PM UTC

This is great news. Pkgng is very easy to use and achieves a very good combination of binary packages and the FreeBSD ports tree when you want to compile stuff yourself. Which happens more often than expected admittedly.

Re: Baseline Mac OS X Support merged into FreeBSD package manager

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Post by mikepurvis » Fri, Jan 02, 2015, 10:59 PM UTC

oellegaard wrote: post #3

santaclaus wrote: post #2

Interesting! What is the advantage of the FreeBSD package manager over existing OS X package managers like Homebrew or MacPorts?

It's a binary package manager vs homebrew that downloads the source, patches it and compiles it AFAIK.

Most of the standard stuff in homebrew is available in bottled form.

Which isn't to say Homebrew doesn't have its problems— setting up your own bottling infrastructure is difficult/impossible, and basic stuff like caching dependencies isn't there (cf. https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/issues/27457).

Re: Baseline Mac OS X Support merged into FreeBSD package manager

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Post by jherdman » Fri, Jan 02, 2015, 11:09 PM UTC

This pull request is a thing of beauty. Each commit is a little slice of (mostly) independent awesome. The project nerd in me just did a little dance.

Re: Baseline Mac OS X Support merged into FreeBSD package manager

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Post by Argorak » Fri, Jan 02, 2015, 11:33 PM UTC

oellegaard wrote: post #3

santaclaus wrote: post #2

Interesting! What is the advantage of the FreeBSD package manager over existing OS X package managers like Homebrew or MacPorts?

It's a binary package manager vs homebrew that downloads the source, patches it and compiles it AFAIK.

Both brew and macports provide that nowadays. I still see an advantage in using a package manager that is used for a full distro, allowing for easier management of packages. I am aware that this benefit might never materialize, but it's good some people try.