I don't mean to be so disparaging, but Microsoft really should just take IE out back and shoot it.
Why? IE11 is a really good browser when you need something small, light, and incredibly fast. I can slap adblock and lastpass on it, too.
A new Microsoft browser?
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Re: A new Microsoft browser?
#52At this point, Microsoft has pulled the plug on so many of its products & services over the years that developers and users are cautiously avoiding everything it puts out. Even if it's good. From Zune (iPod competitor), to Kin, to Origami (small touchscreen laptop), to Games for Windows Live (steam competitor), to Live.com (google competitor v1), Bing.com (google compeititor v2), Expo (craigslist competitor), whats-i…
Google abandons projects swiftly when they think that don't make sense; Wave, iGoogle, Reader, Glass?, Buzz, Plus?, Answers, Google Video, Google Checkout/Wallet, Orkut, Picasa, Gears, etc... When you are a large company you need to focus your resources into areas where you can be effective and not stretch yourself too thin.
> and not stretch yourself too thin.
But they are. Keep, Fit are prime examples of stretching but offering a mediocre "service".
The way I see it, Google turned hard into a direction from building services with APIs into data collection silos. Google+ with Photos, Keep, Fit, Now. The data is even isolated from each other or really hard to access : - you can't access Keep data anywhere, or what you upload on it - Google+ Photos are available on web, not in Drive. You can see Drive photos in it, but you can't edit them with auto awesome
Fit is so basic that it offers practically nothing that it doesn't already exists out there. Data representation is in a form of one graph of total calories/steps. It does require you to enable location tracking though, to be able to automatically track steps/workouts (how suprising), which takes a major effect on the battery life.
Google is coming for your data and coming hard.
Re: A new Microsoft browser?
#53At this point, Microsoft has pulled the plug on so many of its products & services over the years that developers and users are cautiously avoiding everything it puts out. Even if it's good. From Zune (iPod competitor), to Kin, to Origami (small touchscreen laptop), to Games for Windows Live (steam competitor), to Live.com (google competitor v1), Bing.com (google compeititor v2), Expo (craigslist competitor), whats-i…
Microsoft loves to start things, then leaves them to rot. The Micro-Cycle...
You seem to be claiming this is going to happen to IE as well? Seems a bit far fetched, given it is still used by millions of people and something like 20% of all desktop browsers used is IE.
Re: A new Microsoft browser?
#54It's a good idea to create a new browser that updates automatically every few weeks like chrome rather than IE, which normally can't update automatically because of corporate policies.
IE 11 has automatic updates, check out its "info" dialog! Though I saw several corporate PCs where the admins turned the autoupdate off. Older IE got updates through Windows Update. The last IE version for WinXP was IE 8. If IE 12 doesn't come with a transparent IE compatibility mode and just starts a IE 11 window, corporate admins will probably set IE 11 as default browser. So developers of enterprise websites are s…
It would be really nice if all browsers had an expiration date. If they haven't been updated in 12 months, they simply cease to operate in any way except to update themselves.
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#55Recently the news broke that Microsoft may be working on another browser instead of IE. After reviewing the available evidence I’ve come to the conclusion that, although Microsoft is making a few adjustments, and a name change for IE might be a good idea, the new browser will essentially be IE12. Still, I think we web developers should support the “new browser” narrative. This is how you start an article. I didn't re…
Why? I don't get anything particularly insightful at all from this snippet.
Although he left out all the details, after the first paragraph you know enough to decide whether you want to read the rest of the article or not.
The "inverted pyramid" someone else linked to here means that the information is presented from most to least important, so you can stop reading the article anytime when it starts to bore you, and still know you have read everything you want to know.
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#56I don't mean to be so disparaging, but Microsoft really should just take IE out back and shoot it.
Any competition is good competition, no matter what the quality is. Or do you want a single monopolistic choice of Chrome to rule the world? Sorry, bit we've been there before. Embrace the variety.
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#57Does anyone have idea if the idiocy of integrating the IE browser so deep inside the os is finally solved, that version updates are possible? And will spartan be stand alone binary, like IE should have been at launch?
I don't have a good understanding of the history of IE but thought it was embedded as a way of breaking Netscape - if that was ever true the time has obviously passed for it to remain deeply embedded. However if this was the reason, isn't that a good argument for the way MS constructed IE (which isn't to say I agree with the strategy)?
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
IE 11 has automatic updates, check out its "info" dialog! Though I saw several corporate PCs where the admins turned the autoupdate off. Older IE got updates through Windows Update. The last IE version for WinXP was IE 8. If IE 12 doesn't come with a transparent IE compatibility mode and just starts a IE 11 window, corporate admins will probably set IE 11 as default browser. So developers of enterprise websites are s…
It would be really nice if all browsers had an expiration date. If they haven't been updated in 12 months, they simply cease to operate in any way except to update themselves.
In which case I nominate you to field the billion support calls from people confused why their "Internet" is broken. No rather just silently update it.
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#59Sounds good. Let's hope Spartan is the mindset the devs are operating with.
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#60One of the things I really want to see is both IE and Safari move to the six weekly update cycle that Firefox and Chrome are using.
IE still has a major slice of the browser market share and this probably ain't going to change soon. IE>9 have all been decent browsers for the time that they were released, although they do seem a bit out of date 6 months later. At the moment, if both Firefox and Chrome implement a new web platform feature, it's often available to ~60% of web users within three months because of the release cycle and auto updates. IE going to a 6-week major release cycle could probably push this up to 80%-90% of users getting a feature within three months, which would be awesome. (IE mobile is pretty small for market share, so I'll ignore it at the objection of my Windows Phone using friends.)
Safari pretty much now works on a yearly major release cycle - which is better than waiting two or three years, but it still sucks. Switching on Mac OS X to Chrome or Firefox (or Opera) is simple enough. iOS, however, is pretty much limited to whatever mobile Safari happened to have when WWDC rolled around (save for minor updates whenever iOS 8 becomes 8.1, for example). I sort of hope Apple uncouples core app versioning and updates from iOS and Mac OS X updates soon, because that's mean they could move Safari to a much shorter release cycle. iOS Safari is probably the most widely used mobile browser, and keeping it at the bleeding edge would do wonders for the mobile web.