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Re: A new Microsoft browser?

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Post by joenathan »

TheSoftwareGuy wrote: post #19
joenathan wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google abandons projects swiftly when they think that don't make sense; Wave, iGoogle, Reader, Glass?, Buzz, Plus?, Answers, Google Video, Google Checkout/Wallet, Orkut, Picasa, Gears, etc... When you are a large company you need to focus your resources into areas where you can be effective and not stretch yourself too thin.

Did I miss something? When did Google give up on glass?

They haven't yet, but with Android Wear replicating its functionality while being much less expensive and more socially acceptable, it's not hard to see that Glass doesn't have much of a future.

Re: A new Microsoft browser?

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Post by Encosia »

s_extra_s wrote: post #4

It's a good idea to create a new browser that updates automatically every few weeks like chrome rather than IE, which normally can't update automatically because of corporate policies.

IE has been automatically updating for a while now.

Re: A new Microsoft browser?

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Post by yzzxy »

dummyfellow wrote: post #17
ChrisNorstrom wrote: post #2

At this point, Microsoft has pulled the plug on so many of its products & services over the years that developers and users are cautiously avoiding everything it puts out. Even if it's good. From Zune (iPod competitor), to Kin, to Origami (small touchscreen laptop), to Games for Windows Live (steam competitor), to Live.com (google competitor v1), Bing.com (google compeititor v2), Expo (craigslist competitor), whats-i…

Microsoft also has tons of product they supported for years. From Windows, to SQL server, to Sharepoint, to dynamics, to Office, to Visual Studio, to xbox, to ... Also live.com rebranded and bing,WP are still alive and well funded. If you look for a company to never shutdown a product which isn't getting traction, you are living in a dreamspace and need to wakeup.

To be fair, the original Xbox was quietly removed from store shelves and software development halted immediately after the 360 was announced. Contrast this with the average console support cycle of several years into the new generation.

Re: A new Microsoft browser?

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Post by imron »

joenathan wrote: post #6
ChrisNorstrom wrote: post #2

At this point, Microsoft has pulled the plug on so many of its products & services over the years that developers and users are cautiously avoiding everything it puts out. Even if it's good. From Zune (iPod competitor), to Kin, to Origami (small touchscreen laptop), to Games for Windows Live (steam competitor), to Live.com (google competitor v1), Bing.com (google compeititor v2), Expo (craigslist competitor), whats-i…

Google abandons projects swiftly when they think that don't make sense; Wave, iGoogle, Reader, Glass?, Buzz, Plus?, Answers, Google Video, Google Checkout/Wallet, Orkut, Picasa, Gears, etc... When you are a large company you need to focus your resources into areas where you can be effective and not stretch yourself too thin.

Google doing it too doesn't somehow absolve Microsoft's transgressions.

People are also weary of Google doing this and you see comments on it in almost every discussion on HN of a Google product.

Re: A new Microsoft browser?

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Post by ynniv »

Recently the news broke that Microsoft may be working on another browser instead of IE. After reviewing the available evidence I’ve come to the conclusion that, although Microsoft is making a few adjustments, and a name change for IE might be a good idea, the new browser will essentially be IE12. Still, I think we web developers should support the “new browser” narrative.

This is how you start an article. I didn't read any farther, but my already high opinion of quirksmode.org is even higher.

Re: A new Microsoft browser?

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Post by beaner »

ynniv wrote: post #26

Recently the news broke that Microsoft may be working on another browser instead of IE. After reviewing the available evidence I’ve come to the conclusion that, although Microsoft is making a few adjustments, and a name change for IE might be a good idea, the new browser will essentially be IE12. Still, I think we web developers should support the “new browser” narrative. This is how you start an article. I didn't re…

Why? I don't get anything particularly insightful at all from this snippet.

Re: A new Microsoft browser?

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Post by UnoriginalGuy »

wideroots wrote: post #22

I will give it a try if the new browser no longer supports ActiveX and has better extension supports similar to Chrome.

ActiveX isn't a major concern, in current IE if you look in the security tab in the Internet context, it is pretty locked down and damn near depreciated.

Intranet is more liberal. But a lot of enterprises add their internal portals to the trusted list if they still depend on ActiveX (as a depressingly large number do).

Chrome and Firefox's extensions are better. Although Firefox's extension model is a little clunky due to how old it is (or at least it was last time I used it).

Re: A new Microsoft browser?

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Post by kijin »

s_extra_s wrote: post #4

It's a good idea to create a new browser that updates automatically every few weeks like chrome rather than IE, which normally can't update automatically because of corporate policies.

But then corporations will simply disable automatic updates for PCs under their control. Don't underestimate the stubbornness of corporate IT departments!

Re: A new Microsoft browser?

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Post by parag_c_mehta »

UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #28
wideroots wrote: post #22

I will give it a try if the new browser no longer supports ActiveX and has better extension supports similar to Chrome.

ActiveX isn't a major concern, in current IE if you look in the security tab in the Internet context, it is pretty locked down and damn near depreciated. Intranet is more liberal. But a lot of enterprises add their internal portals to the trusted list if they still depend on ActiveX (as a depressingly large number do). Chrome and Firefox's extensions are better. Although Firefox's extension model is a little clunky d…

Yes but a good browser with Chrome's features will be a great alternative. Right now Chrome has become a big memory hog and is slowly going to competition with old IE.
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