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Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome are such memory hogs

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Re: Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome are such memory hogs

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Post by kazagistar »

wutbrodo wrote: post #408
fwn wrote: post #288

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> "feel morally justified in denying revenue to authors and other content creators" I do think that only a very small portion of adblocking users wants to "justify" anything in this regard. Most just don't want to see ads and skip the faulty and economically biased moral debate around it. edit: While I agree that the blacklisting solution shouldn't be too much work, the charming "setup and forget" experience most adb…

> I do think that only a very small portion of adblocking users wants to "justify" anything in this regard. Most just don't want to see ads and skip the faulty and economically biased moral debate around it. This is possibly true, but not particularly relevant, as my comment mentions that I'm talking specifically about those who _do_ engage in moral justification. Among the people with whom I've talked about it, thos…

Is "I am willing to pay through monotization models that are not ads" a consistent view in your perspective?

Re: Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome are such memory hogs

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Post by scholia »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #396
scholia wrote: post #394

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You get one process that crashes about as often as Chrome, though it consumes fewer resources and is much faster to restart (by not loading tabs unless you go to them). The increasing crashiness of Chrome was one of the reasons I stopped using it.

You're a lot luckier than I am. Also it still takes a nontrivial amount of time to not-load a lot of tabs.

Not-loading tabs is a heck of a lot quicker than loading them (and I usually have more than 500 in Firefox). Otherwise, I'm not the only person who has had too many problems with Chrome: https://productforums.google.com/forum/?utm_medium=email&utm...

Re: Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome are such memory hogs

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Post by davidy123 »

kyriakos wrote: post #70
shpx wrote: post #2

People are using µBlock now for precisely this reason. https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/%C2%B5Block-vs.-ABP:-... https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/%C2%B5block/cjpalh... https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock

I tried µBlock but it seems to be extremely trigger happy. For example Youtube front page doesn't show any videos and Facebook doesn't load at all (basically it blocks everything other than its side bar). I can obviously white list those sites but my concern is that next time I visit some site for the first time I will not know if its broken or just µBlock acting up. ----- EDIT I reinstalled the plugin and the proble…

I'm also finding it doesn't work on sites where Adblock worked. For example Aeroplan.com. I've reinstalled it and it still doesn't work.

Re: Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome are such memory hogs

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Post by WorldWideWayne »

wander_homer wrote: post #129
WorldWideWayne wrote: post #100

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Tabs are fine and I didn't even mention them. MDI (multiple document interface) have been around forever and no ...they do not take window management away from the OS because tabs are not windows until you want them to be, at which point the OS takes over. Mozilla's problem has more to do with the fact that by using non-standard chrome around their HTML engine, they cause many little breakages like improper keyboard…

So what's exactly your point? How does Mozilla interfere with your life and worsen it, so that wishing them to "die" would be justified? Why don't you just ignore them? Why do you want thousands of people to lose their job and why do you want to take away an open source software that's liked by millions of users?

So, it's OK when thousands of people here say that they wish Microsoft would go away but I can't say that about Mozilla?

Makes sense.

Re: Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome are such memory hogs

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Post by WorldWideWayne »

eropple wrote: post #224
WorldWideWayne wrote: post #105

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I doubt it.

I would be much less doubting in your position. I downvoted and flagged you for your jerkish rhetoric because it doesn't contribute to the discussion.

Sure it does. I asked why Chrome, not being open sourced, is "bad" for the ecosystem. Unfortunately, I packaged that with an unpopular opinion. Hence, the censorship doled out by yourself and others. Way to go!

Re: Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome are such memory hogs

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Post by WorldWideWayne »

eropple wrote: post #225
WorldWideWayne wrote: post #104

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That would have made sense if I had said "kill them", but no...I said that I hope they go away. Kind of a big difference.

"No, I much prefer that Mozilla just go away and die." If you're going to try to split hairs over "kill them" versus "go away and die", you're going to have trouble convincing people.

If you don't think there's actually a big difference between actively trying to kill something and hoping that it just goes away and dies, then I guess there's nothing else to talk about.

It's a good thing that people don't need much convincing since Firefox is apparently dying anyway. Good riddance I say :)

Re: Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome are such memory hogs

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Post by wutbrodo »

kazagistar wrote: post #411
wutbrodo wrote: post #408

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I do think that only a very small portion of adblocking users wants to "justify" anything in this regard. Most just don't want to see ads and skip the faulty and economically biased moral debate around it. This is possibly true, but not particularly relevant, as my comment mentions that I'm talking specifically about those who _do_ engage in moral justification. Among the people with whom I've talked about it, thos…

Is "I am willing to pay through monotization models that are not ads" a consistent view in your perspective?

Of course, but that's not relevant in the slightest. Independently of whether or not one is happy with non-ad monetization, the decision under discussion is:

"In the _absence_ of non-ad monetization for a given product, do I decide that the transaction (view ads, get the product) is not for me or do I unilaterally decide to take the product without compensation".

Re: Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome are such memory hogs

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Post by verisimilitude »

Nanzikambe wrote: post #385
verisimilitude wrote: post #334

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Both the DNS and the transparent proxy sound like an interesting way to improve the web at home (I'm thinking specifically of an iPhone on my WiFi) -- do you have more information about how you did these things?

I use a chrooted instance of Bind as it's a LAN only dns server, /etc/bind/named.conf includes: include "/etc/bind/adblock.conf"; That file is generated by a script that uses a hosts file maintained on http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/ the script is something like: #!/bin/bash cat /etc/bind/adblock.conf | xz -z - > /etc/bind/adblock.conf-$(date "+%Y%m%d-%H%M%S").xz echo "" > /etc/bind/adblock.conf curl -o - http://so…

Thank you very very much for taking the time to write this up!

Re: Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome are such memory hogs

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Post by Tanath »

Nexxxeh wrote: post #44
elvis635 wrote: post #11

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Together with umatrix ( https://github.com/gorhill/uMatrix/ ) are the best chrome extensions Since I went back to firefox those are the only extensions I really miss, there is policeman ( https://github.com/futpib/policeman/ ) but it's not as good as them yet To whoever develop extensions, please don't focus only on chrome, firefox during the last months has become must better that it was before, if developers only c…

As my paranoia ramps up year on year, I now use Opera with µBlock. For me, it has the polish of Chrome with some nice extras, but without the increasingly creepy Googality. It works fine, although I've not tried µMatrix. (I have my defaults changed to DuckDuckGo. Usually connecting via a VPN.) I've whitelisted a few sites I like to support (a couple of webcomics, HaD etc). I have a lot of filters: "62,501 network fil…

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