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Re: India Orders 32 Websites Blocked, Including GitHub, Archive.Org, Pastebin

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Post by [deleted] »

nicksergeant wrote: post #241
chernevik wrote: post #237

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I'm sure everything is happening very fast right now, but I hope you arrive at a policy more carefully drawn than this. All terrorists suck, and they haven't any right to use services like yours to coordinate hurting other people. Nor does anyone have the right to incite violence. But people do have a right to political opinions, and some such might be interpreted as "remotely pro terrorist", without actually being c…

I appreciate your comments. Snipt is a very low-traffic site so I doubt my decisions along these lines will ever have much impact on very many people in general, but I am filing for DMCA agent status and will adopt an official Terms of Use and all that jazz. As a tiny (open-source) side project, this stuff is no fun, but I realize it's now a requirement if I want to continue leaving the site up.

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Post by im3w1l »

colinbartlett wrote: post #44
hueving wrote: post #36

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The full URLs provide the source of the problem causing the block. It doesn't mean they won't crudely cut the entire domain.

For sites that work only over HTTPS, like Github, they'd need to block the entire domain, right? This is what happened in Russia recently: http://techcrunch.com/2014/12/05/to-get-off-russias-blacklis...

I guess they could MITM the connections. Yes you would get certificate errors, but your choice would be to accept the MITM certificate or not visit github at all.

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Post by iamgopal »

Its true that its blocked, but a simple change of dns server can unblock this. utterly ineffective blocking, thats what I love about India, no matter how intellectually sound laws are, the implementation is so poor, you can very easily bypass them.

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Post by amadvance »

hangonhn wrote: post #150
adventured wrote: post #123

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By that definition Russia is a giant terrorist organization, seeing as they're pointing nuclear missiles at a lot of cities in North America and Europe.

Well I won't rule on the general statement about Russia but their nuclear arsenal isn't being used to change any of our stated policies. They're not saying "stop doing X or we will use nuclear weapons". What most or all current nuclear armed nations have done is basically used their nukes to maintain the status quo -- a Nash equilibrium of non-usage.

Russia invaded Crimea some months ago. Only a nuclear power could have done that without retaliation.

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Post by crag »

rgovind wrote: post #126
FrankenPC wrote: post #114

I'm not a India software industry expert, so excuse me if this sounds like a dumb question. Isn't it a terrible economic idea for India to block access to Github? I thought India was really big into software engineering?

I am an Indian citizen so I can offer some perspective. Atleast 50% of those in software engineering don't vote. Going to voting station, standing in queue and voting is a painful process and most of us don't take the trouble. Hence, their concerns are not really heard in the govt. These people will not go to concerned authorities and explain them how it will affect the economy. They will just whine for a few days an…

"Going to voting station, standing in queue and voting is a painful process and most of us don't take the trouble."

Not exactly cupcakes and candy in America either. But I suspect the voting process is easier here. But our numbers are also very low. In 2014 I think 36% of the voting population voted? Which means, the current government doesn't represent the American people.

But whose fault is that? Well ours (Americans), of course. Most don't take the time (or care too) too vote. But man, when it comes time to bitch about issues everyone steps to the front.

Re: India Orders 32 Websites Blocked, Including GitHub, Archive.Org, Pastebin

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Post by ksinghsandhu »

h43k3r wrote: post #166
nicksergeant wrote: post #14

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I run https://snipt.net , one of the sites listed as being blocked, and I've never received any communication from anyone with the Indian government or ISPs. So they're not proactively doing anything to unblock these sites, as far as I can tell.

Don't expect the people from India to contact you. They are just too dumb to do this. People who makes such decision have no knowledge of internet and what are good and bad sites. PS - I am an Indian

agree.

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Post by arunmib »

aksx wrote: post #265
anandrm wrote: post #186

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I m not sure if github is blocked, i m pulling repos right now from Bangalore.

i tried to push some code and was getting DNS resolution errors so i started using google DNS, now everything works.

Same here. Tried accessing github and sourceforge didn't work, switched to google DNS, works like a charm now. Not sure how they are blocking the sites.

Re: India Orders 32 Websites Blocked, Including GitHub, Archive.Org, Pastebin

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Post by vegabook »

arielm wrote: post #200
vegabook wrote: post #149

There is a case to be made for the idea that America-hosted, America-doctrine birthed, websites, do not jive with everybody on the planet. The idea that Github is beyond reproach and blocking it makes no sense is superficially tempting, until you realise that the vast, vast majority of projects on it are America-led. Why is it so surprising to block a culture which is permeating the planet, to the detriment of other…

I'd understand the argument if GitHub was an opinion news site of some kind, but the fact is that it's a place where code is shared, code used to create software. GitHub is a US company but so are many others. To say github is "pushing" to Americanize the world and trump local communities is either foolish or a complete misunderstanding of what github does. I don't mean to be a jerk but you're really missing the poin…

yes of course the choice to block Github is unfortunate, but I am making a wider point about the overwhelming dominance of the US in all things online, and that, clumsy as the execution may be, one might want to try to understand the underlying issues behind these actions, even if they appear misguided.
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