If Github is truly blocked, that could be devastating for outsourced work, on both sides of the equation.
This just in: Indian Government is taking kickbacks from Bitbucket. /s
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#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
They are terrorizing local populations for a political goal. They are not just fighting battles they are slaughtering civilians into compliance. How is that not terrorism? Edit: He also claimed that it would be better if ISIS was in charge of the area. That is quite ridiculous.
By that definition, ANY fighting would be terrorism. Was the Vietnam war terrorism? We definitely terrified some members of the local population. Were the actions by Japan or Germany in WWII terrorism? By some definitions of terrorism, all of the above would count as terrorism. At that point, the term seems to be pretty useless.
Germany, Japan, the UK and the US (among others) all did things in WWII that count as terrorism, and no, the term isn't useless. The textbook definition, "the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims" is exactly what was happening in the war, although I would add the caveat that it's violence and intimidation against civilians. Using violence and intimidation against enemy troops is just regular warfare.
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
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That makes no sense. Conservative groups are all about outsourcing. "dey took'r jeebs" groups are complaining about immigrants in the US.
The anti-immigration crowd are the conservative working class. Like it or not, immigrants are actually coming and displacing them. Where I disagree with them is their solution to the issue. The correct solution I think would be to level the playing field by making illegal immigrants citizens who pay taxes.
The same conservative masterminds which influence the working class to be upset about immigration, are the ones who are outsourcing jobs. It's nuts, when you think about it. It's nothing more than a bunch of rich old guys trying to protect their bottom line. Whatever works for their profits is what they do.
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#84I'm on Airtel Broadband, and all the 32 websites are working fine (atlease for now). May be because I'm using Google Public DNS.
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Sure, they are terrorizing the local population, but lots of governments do that without being labeled terrorists. ...including the US government, let's not forget. Drone strikes aren't "local" to the US, but they are conducted against US citizens in countries that the US is not at war with[0]. Moreover, if any middle eastern country did to the US what the US does in Pakistan, you'd bet the US would call it "terror…
A terrorist, I seem to remember, is someone whose main political tool is the spread of terror. A bombing is not terrorism unless used in the pursuit of political gain.
> A terrorist, I seem to remember, is someone whose main political tool is the spread of terror.
The definition has shifted, especially after 9/11, but for the sake of discussion let's use the one you've proposed.
> A bombing is not terrorism unless used in the pursuit of political gain.
The point is that only certain political goals (the ones that the US wants to de-legitimize) can qualify an act of violence as terrorism. If Pakistan were to conduct drone strikes against the US, you'd bet they would be considered "a terrorist state" by the US, even if they never hit a single civilian (which is more than the US can say for its drone strike program[0]).
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_strikes_in_Pakistan#Civi...
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#86Arvind Gupta, the head of IT Cell, BJP Tweeted: "The websites that have been blocked were based on an advisory by Anti Terrorism Squad, and were carrying Anti India content from ISIS. The sites that have removed objectionable content and/or cooperated with the on going investigations, are being unblocked." This is bad. archive.org by default should have all sorts of offensive things on it. Pastebin and github should…
I run https://snipt.net , one of the sites listed as being blocked, and I've never received any communication from anyone with the Indian government or ISPs. So they're not proactively doing anything to unblock these sites, as far as I can tell.
Nice, here is my chance to get in touch with you again. A few weeks ago I tweeted out something along the lines of you hosting a lot of credit card dumps on your service, have you done anything about this?
I don't care to check once again, but your site did have a lot of users offering stolen credit cards for sale. Are you aware of this?
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly. His point is well stated too, and ironically the grandparent in this thread fell victim to the mode of thought the author of the linked comment cautions against.
Armies do not melt into the civilian population at the first sign of trouble.
Presumably because tanks are hard to hide, not because they don't want to. Guerrilla warfare warfare is not a middle eastern thing; a strategic manual we were encouraged to read in the Norwegian army told us we should source food and supplies from the local population and fill sugar on the gas tanks of the enemy. Assuming you've lost tanks and airspace first, of course.
From what I've heard IS has all kinds of heavy weaponry and hold territory. Seems like hiding would be hard.
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#88Arvind Gupta, the head of IT Cell, BJP Tweeted: "The websites that have been blocked were based on an advisory by Anti Terrorism Squad, and were carrying Anti India content from ISIS. The sites that have removed objectionable content and/or cooperated with the on going investigations, are being unblocked." This is bad. archive.org by default should have all sorts of offensive things on it. Pastebin and github should…
I run https://snipt.net , one of the sites listed as being blocked, and I've never received any communication from anyone with the Indian government or ISPs. So they're not proactively doing anything to unblock these sites, as far as I can tell.
As the owner of https://cryptbin.com, also on the list, I've never received any such communication either.
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#89A terrorist is a freedom fighter who isn't on your side.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Saying that ISIS isn't a terrorist organization doesn't mean that user is defending the organization. Terrorist has become a catch-all term that is used way too broadly (seems to cover any armed force motivated by Islam for many people). ISIS can be an awful organization without consisting of terrorists.
They are terrorizing local populations for a political goal. They are not just fighting battles they are slaughtering civilians into compliance. How is that not terrorism? Edit: He also claimed that it would be better if ISIS was in charge of the area. That is quite ridiculous.
Terrorism is the use of mass terror against a civilian population you don't control to reach a political goal. Terrorizing a population is simply oppression and governments have been doing this for as long as there has been governments (Nazis, Soviets, Chinese Communists, etc. are all modern examples of this.)