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Uber Suspends Its Ride-Sharing Service in Spain Following a Court Ruling

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Re: Uber Suspends Its Ride-Sharing Service in Spain Following a Court Ruling

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AFAIK, this is a first: "The company said it is “respecting the law” with its suspension" . Previously, they always said to continue their ways, going so far as promising to pay fines drivers get (sorry, can't find a link for that, but http://ernstseconomyforyou.blogspot.nl/2014/12/the-untolerab... is an example of what they think laws mean) They basically are trying to force law changes. There is nothing wrong with…

Who are "the weak" being protected by taxi regulations? Uber is usually cheaper than regular taxis so more available to poorer people.

Re: Uber Suspends Its Ride-Sharing Service in Spain Following a Court Ruling

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AFAIK, this is a first: "The company said it is “respecting the law” with its suspension" . Previously, they always said to continue their ways, going so far as promising to pay fines drivers get (sorry, can't find a link for that, but http://ernstseconomyforyou.blogspot.nl/2014/12/the-untolerab... is an example of what they think laws mean) They basically are trying to force law changes. There is nothing wrong with…

I do not think it is unfair to Uber. If they are breaching laws, they know they can be punished for it. I'm sure there are other laws that protect Uber, such as againts copyright infringement, brand infringement, regulations for bankers who hold their money, NDAs with their employees, etc. They just have to figure out how to offer their service without breaking the law.

Re: Uber Suspends Its Ride-Sharing Service in Spain Following a Court Ruling

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Some perspective from a Spaniard: The Spanish taxi guild/lobby is very, very strong. Spain has a strong public transit system, but taxis are widely used nevertheless. Taxi drivers went on strike this year during specific dates and all hell broke loose. They have much to lose, since a taxi license is very expensive and considered an investment, there is a second hand license market, etc. Some people buy houses, they b…

> Similar to construction workers; if they lose their job they cannot work as anything else. But this isn't true right? It's not that Uber is eliminating taxi jobs, it's that they are competing with the status quo. Surely, if current drivers would lose their jobs, they'd be more than welcome to hop on-board the Uber train (or I guess I should say "Uber car"). Is there a reason that you think that these drivers wouldn…

Uber make grandiose claims about the amount their drivers can earn, these claims have been demonstrated to be false, Uber drives down the cost of using Uber which in turn drives down the amount that drivers earn[1]. Driving for Uber is uneconomical for some drivers in some areas, if the trend continues more and more drivers for Uber are going to find it uneconomical. If the concern the taxi drivers have is that they are going to lose their career, Uber is certainly not a viable alternative, because while it may provide a job right now who knows what it will provide in a years time.

[1] http://uk.businessinsider.com/uber-drivers-say-theyre-making...

Re: Uber Suspends Its Ride-Sharing Service in Spain Following a Court Ruling

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AFAIK, this is a first: "The company said it is “respecting the law” with its suspension" . Previously, they always said to continue their ways, going so far as promising to pay fines drivers get (sorry, can't find a link for that, but http://ernstseconomyforyou.blogspot.nl/2014/12/the-untolerab... is an example of what they think laws mean) They basically are trying to force law changes. There is nothing wrong with…

Who are "the weak" being protected by taxi regulations? Uber is usually cheaper than regular taxis so more available to poorer people.

I can't speak for Spain but here in Australia there are regulations around pricing ie no surges, there are cameras present in every taxi and drivers are vetted and have their names clearly displayed.

All of which are designed to protect women, those who are intoxicated or incapacitated and the mentally challenged from being exploited.

Taxi regulations are like consumer protection laws. You don't know you need them until something bad happens.

Re: Uber Suspends Its Ride-Sharing Service in Spain Following a Court Ruling

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AFAIK, this is a first: "The company said it is “respecting the law” with its suspension" . Previously, they always said to continue their ways, going so far as promising to pay fines drivers get (sorry, can't find a link for that, but http://ernstseconomyforyou.blogspot.nl/2014/12/the-untolerab... is an example of what they think laws mean) They basically are trying to force law changes. There is nothing wrong with…

Who are "the weak" being protected by taxi regulations? Uber is usually cheaper than regular taxis so more available to poorer people.

People who need to be covered by insurance if their driver crashes and injures them.

Re: Uber Suspends Its Ride-Sharing Service in Spain Following a Court Ruling

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Good job Europe! Moving boldly into a 21st century of open borders, individual responsibility, free choice and minimal government, one banned American troublemaker at a time.

I don't know what are you talking about, but if selling out to predatory foreign companies with openly questionable moral compasses and null respect for the local legislation is "the 21st century", I'd like my dear Europe to stay in the 20th, thank you very much.

Add those of us in moderate countries eg Australia to the list.

Given how much of a sad joke consumer protection laws are in the US and the general exploitation of the disadvantaged eg interest rates on student loans it's a bit rich to be lecturing other countries on matters like this.

Re: Uber Suspends Its Ride-Sharing Service in Spain Following a Court Ruling

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Can we clarify: is it just the Uber Pop service (normal people's cars, irregular costs) which is suspended, not the standard Uber taxi service (licensed booked hire by authorized driver) ? Does Uber operate in Spain using it's other services?

No, they don't. They just had Uber Pop.

There is a Spanish Uber competitor called Cabify that does comply with the law. They have professional drivers and cool and clean cars. So yes, Uber could be legal if they want (it implies more effort though as every driver has to have a license)

Re: Uber Suspends Its Ride-Sharing Service in Spain Following a Court Ruling

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Some perspective from a Spaniard: The Spanish taxi guild/lobby is very, very strong. Spain has a strong public transit system, but taxis are widely used nevertheless. Taxi drivers went on strike this year during specific dates and all hell broke loose. They have much to lose, since a taxi license is very expensive and considered an investment, there is a second hand license market, etc. Some people buy houses, they b…

In general government regulation should prevent negative externalities, not restrict entry to certain occupations in order to keep wages high for those occupations.

The issues you cite (healthcare, transportation, telecommunications, energy, etc) all involve externalities or market failures. Low wages are not an eternality or a market failure.

Issues of redistribution are best dealt with by taxation [1]. Why does a person who earns a low income deserve more of a break, just because they happen to be a taxi driver?

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_theorems_of_welfare...

Re: Uber Suspends Its Ride-Sharing Service in Spain Following a Court Ruling

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AFAIK, this is a first: "The company said it is “respecting the law” with its suspension" . Previously, they always said to continue their ways, going so far as promising to pay fines drivers get (sorry, can't find a link for that, but http://ernstseconomyforyou.blogspot.nl/2014/12/the-untolerab... is an example of what they think laws mean) They basically are trying to force law changes. There is nothing wrong with…

> Previously, they always said to continue their ways

They actually already gave up in Germany a few weeks ago. Bascially reducing their fares so far that they are considered ride sharing (which bascially means a driver can make no profit).

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