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Re: It has blades: Dyson’s little white lie

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Post by assemble »

axod wrote: post #9
ax0n wrote: post #5

I don't see how it's really hack-a-day material. It's more of a rant, and someone using the wrong site for which to air one's grievances... but it's their site, not mine. And I'm known to rant off-topic a bit in my own little corners of the web, as puny and insignificant as they are. Still, Dyson is a bit of a snake-oil salesman. He makes sleek, designer houseware and peddles it via the outlets frequented by those wi…

>> "Still, Dyson is a bit of a snake-oil salesman. He makes sleek, designer houseware and peddles it via the outlets frequented by those with disposable income whom are always looking out for sleek, designer houseware." That's BS. Having recently bought a new Dyson Vacuum cleaner, I'm still surprised just how well thought out, well put together it is. The attachment that uses the suction to spin round a brush for cle…

My Hoover ( http://www.hoover.com/product.aspx?model=U5780900&ds=fal... ) does all that stuff too. It even has the roller brush for stairs, couches, etc. Even better -- it works!

I'm consistently not impressed with Dyson's BS.

Re: It has blades: Dyson’s little white lie

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Post by timdorr »

axod wrote: post #7

This is a bit harsh. Anyone who has a Dyson Vacuum cleaner understands the amazing attention to detail and build quality, efficiency, etc. Even if it's not a miracle fan (who said it was going to be), having a 'dyson' designed fan will be enough to make it a success. They consistently make fantastic products.

Quality engineering doesn't cover up the fact that it's a dumb idea. The fan didn't need to be reinvented.

Re: It has blades: Dyson’s little white lie

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Post by bsaunder »

_ck_ wrote: post #8

It's news that marketeers exagerate to the point of lying in commercials? All they had to do was say it doesn't have CONVENTIONAL blades. But then 90% of the low IQ market this is aimed at wouldn't know what they mean, so they just left out "conventional".

The OP comes across being at the 91 percentile and saying... "hey, wait a minute, there must be blades!" He would have benefited by the addition of CONVENTIONAL.

Re: It has blades: Dyson’s little white lie

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Post by by »

assemble wrote: post #11
axod wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> "Still, Dyson is a bit of a snake-oil salesman. He makes sleek, designer houseware and peddles it via the outlets frequented by those with disposable income whom are always looking out for sleek, designer houseware." That's BS. Having recently bought a new Dyson Vacuum cleaner, I'm still surprised just how well thought out, well put together it is. The attachment that uses the suction to spin round a brush for cle…

My Hoover ( http://www.hoover.com/product.aspx?model=U5780900&ds=fal... ) does all that stuff too. It even has the roller brush for stairs, couches, etc. Even better -- it works! I'm consistently not impressed with Dyson's BS.

Hoover were found guilty of deliberately copying patented Dyson technology

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1368860/Dyson-cleans-...

Re: It has blades: Dyson’s little white lie

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Post by bsaunder »

timdorr wrote: post #12
axod wrote: post #7

This is a bit harsh. Anyone who has a Dyson Vacuum cleaner understands the amazing attention to detail and build quality, efficiency, etc. Even if it's not a miracle fan (who said it was going to be), having a 'dyson' designed fan will be enough to make it a success. They consistently make fantastic products.

Quality engineering doesn't cover up the fact that it's a dumb idea. The fan didn't need to be reinvented.

Nor do we need blankets with sleeves, that doesn't mean it's not a good business idea.

Technically dumb is not necessarily economically dumb. I also don't agree with your assertion that it's technically dumb.

Re: It has blades: Dyson’s little white lie

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Post by stinkytaco »

axod wrote: post #9
ax0n wrote: post #5

I don't see how it's really hack-a-day material. It's more of a rant, and someone using the wrong site for which to air one's grievances... but it's their site, not mine. And I'm known to rant off-topic a bit in my own little corners of the web, as puny and insignificant as they are. Still, Dyson is a bit of a snake-oil salesman. He makes sleek, designer houseware and peddles it via the outlets frequented by those wi…

>> "Still, Dyson is a bit of a snake-oil salesman. He makes sleek, designer houseware and peddles it via the outlets frequented by those with disposable income whom are always looking out for sleek, designer houseware." That's BS. Having recently bought a new Dyson Vacuum cleaner, I'm still surprised just how well thought out, well put together it is. The attachment that uses the suction to spin round a brush for cle…

It might be a better vacuum cleaner, but it still sucks.

It's one thing to build the best vacuum cleaner or fan, but they are still vacuum cleaners and fans and to say they are something else is disingenuous.

Re: It has blades: Dyson’s little white lie

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Post by by »

ax0n wrote: post #5

I don't see how it's really hack-a-day material. It's more of a rant, and someone using the wrong site for which to air one's grievances... but it's their site, not mine. And I'm known to rant off-topic a bit in my own little corners of the web, as puny and insignificant as they are. Still, Dyson is a bit of a snake-oil salesman. He makes sleek, designer houseware and peddles it via the outlets frequented by those wi…

I have got the date for cyclonic separation back to at least 1934

http://www.buellrefinery.com/

but as it says on Wikipedia Dyson has himself said he didn't invent cyclonic separation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_(company)

"During a visit to a local sawmill, Dyson noticed how the sawdust was removed from the air by large industrial cyclones. He conjectured the same principle might work, on a smaller scale, in a vacuum cleaner."

Re: It has blades: Dyson’s little white lie

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Post by ajju »

GavinB wrote: post #10
buugs wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not the fans that cause such a supperstition it is suffocation/hypothermia caused by continuous air flow that the superstitious think is the problem.

There are a lot of different reasons for this, including the fan blades chopping the oxygen molecules in half. My cousin had a roommate in South Korea who believed that the fan would create a vortex that sucked the air from the room, creating a fatal vacuum. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death#Beliefs

"chopping the oxygen molecules in half"

The fans in Korea must have really fine blades.

Re: It has blades: Dyson’s little white lie

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Post by ottbot »

ax0n wrote: post #5

I don't see how it's really hack-a-day material. It's more of a rant, and someone using the wrong site for which to air one's grievances... but it's their site, not mine. And I'm known to rant off-topic a bit in my own little corners of the web, as puny and insignificant as they are. Still, Dyson is a bit of a snake-oil salesman. He makes sleek, designer houseware and peddles it via the outlets frequented by those wi…

I agree with the "snake oil salesman" sentiment, while largely good products - I don't think not quite to standard so widely proclaimed by Dyson's marketing dept. and owners value wise..

That said, the Dyson Air Blade (public restroom hand driers) are by far the best I've used.

http://www.dysonairblade.co.uk/

I first saw these at (London) Victoria Station, and see them popping up more and more in the UK..

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