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Veteran's Hospital LSD Testing (1956) [video]

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Re: Veteran's Hospital LSD Testing (1956) [video]

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She is pretty terrible at describing whats happening to her.

If you've ever read Flatland: A Romance of Many Dimensions, you'll remember how difficult it was for The Square to describe his experiences to the other two dimensional beings after visiting Spaceland (a three dimensional world). This woman faces a similar challenge, and I think she does remarkably well.

If you haven't read Flatland, I highly recommend you do so. While on acid, of course.

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That clip left me with so many questions. What was the purpose of the dosing? Did they follow up with her? Was there a lasting change in her life? Seems like it must have been radically jarring to her 1950s housewife societal role.

I think the truly fascinating thing about acid is that is does have an impact but it's somehow not that jarring, given what it is.

Same can be said for shrooms, which I believe open up the minds creative side. Nothing jarring though or deeply life changing.

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When I see videos like this, or read other experiences of LSD, I wonder if I'm not missing out on something. LSD, uniquely amongst mainstream recreational drugs, seems to have the promise of an outright transcendental upside, with supposedly little downside.

It saddens me that there is no safe and legal way for me to try it.

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When I see videos like this, or read other experiences of LSD, I wonder if I'm not missing out on something. LSD, uniquely amongst mainstream recreational drugs, seems to have the promise of an outright transcendental upside, with supposedly little downside. It saddens me that there is no safe and legal way for me to try it.

I totally feel you (no pun intended). same thing here.

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When I see videos like this, or read other experiences of LSD, I wonder if I'm not missing out on something. LSD, uniquely amongst mainstream recreational drugs, seems to have the promise of an outright transcendental upside, with supposedly little downside. It saddens me that there is no safe and legal way for me to try it.

Is there really little downside?

Anecdotally, I've heard from friends in the jamband scene about friends who did LSD who came back "completely changed , and not in a good way."

Re: Veteran's Hospital LSD Testing (1956) [video]

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When I see videos like this, or read other experiences of LSD, I wonder if I'm not missing out on something. LSD, uniquely amongst mainstream recreational drugs, seems to have the promise of an outright transcendental upside, with supposedly little downside. It saddens me that there is no safe and legal way for me to try it.

Is there really little downside? Anecdotally, I've heard from friends in the jamband scene about friends who did LSD who came back "completely changed , and not in a good way."

There is really little downside.

Anecdotally i've heard people say marijuana will get you addicted to harder drugs, will turn you into a melted couch blob, etc.

Re: Veteran's Hospital LSD Testing (1956) [video]

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When I see videos like this, or read other experiences of LSD, I wonder if I'm not missing out on something. LSD, uniquely amongst mainstream recreational drugs, seems to have the promise of an outright transcendental upside, with supposedly little downside. It saddens me that there is no safe and legal way for me to try it.

Is there really little downside? Anecdotally, I've heard from friends in the jamband scene about friends who did LSD who came back "completely changed , and not in a good way."

I imagine there is a lot of confirmation bias going on with stories like that. Drugs are seen almost universally as taboo, so people want to see the bad things that may happen and when people want to see something, exaggerations tend to happen.

I'm not saying your friends weren't changed for the worse, but I do know I've never met someone who was proud to be an LSD user. As such I have to conclude that people choose to speak poorly about LSD, which in turn means we all hear more horror stories than feel good endings.

Re: Veteran's Hospital LSD Testing (1956) [video]

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Around 5:18 she says "I wish I could talk in Technicolor". I think that shows how much of an impression LSD made, as well as what it meant at that time for a housewife to watch a movie in Technicolor.

To me, it seems that she is trying to say that the difference between watching a movie in B/W and then in Technicolor, would be similar as being sober and then taking LSD.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there really little downside? Anecdotally, I've heard from friends in the jamband scene about friends who did LSD who came back "completely changed , and not in a good way."

There is really little downside. Anecdotally i've heard people say marijuana will get you addicted to harder drugs, will turn you into a melted couch blob, etc.

Straw man argument is made of straw. I'm speaking of word of mouth from informed, trusted friends, not what I heard from those who have an agenda have to say on fox news.

Re: Veteran's Hospital LSD Testing (1956) [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there really little downside? Anecdotally, I've heard from friends in the jamband scene about friends who did LSD who came back "completely changed , and not in a good way."

I imagine there is a lot of confirmation bias going on with stories like that. Drugs are seen almost universally as taboo, so people want to see the bad things that may happen and when people want to see something, exaggerations tend to happen. I'm not saying your friends weren't changed for the worse, but I do know I've never met someone who was proud to be an LSD user. As such I have to conclude that people choose…

Maybe my friends did have some sort of confirmation bias, I don't know. I would describe them as "pro" drug users though, definitely not the type to stigmatize drugs. Regardless, why would a rational person risk their body and mind, of which they only have one, on that assumption? Especially on a drug without a reliable source (assuming you are not a chemist) ...
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