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Why I Drilled Holes in My MacBook Pro and Put It in the Oven

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Even if it won't ruin you, unexpectedly having to shell out over a thousand dollars for a new laptop might be so much of a hassle that it's worth "wasting" a few bucks each month to not have to worry about it.

Put those few bucks each month into some interest bearing account and then it can be used for many purposes instead of just a new laptop?

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This is awful advice! Losing a smartphone isn't going to ruin me, but it sure would piss me off to have to fork out £500 or whatever because it gets jacked. Similarly, someone could break into my house and clean it out. Not going to ruin me, but I'd rather not have to replace everything. The whole point of insurance is collective risk-spreading. Yes, this means that the majority (by value) of people with insurance wi…

No, that what you gave is awful advice, to anyone who cares about their money! Go talk to an _honest_ insurance broker (not some State Farm or other company you see on TV commercials) or better yet a financial adviser. You should reserve an insurance claim for catastrophic issues only. You should also have max deductibles. Forking over 500 for a lost iPhone is a MUCH cheaper deal than paying insurance premiums for th…

Why not put the money in the bank only and skip the insurance then, if you're not going to use it anyway?

Don't be a sucker.

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I had almost the exact same issue with my 2009 17' MacBookPro and when it finally wouldn't boot up anymore I took it to the closest Apple store near me. They told me they could do an out of warranty fix of the damaged part (whatever it was, something on the logic board) and it would be around $300. I agreed and they sent it in to their warehouse to get fixed, a few days later I get a call telling me that the part that was needed was severely backordered and I could either wait or they would give me a refurbished 2013 15' MacBookPro with comparable specs to my old MBP plus AppleCare and a bunch of other nice things. Needless to say that was the best $300 I ever spent, had they not been able to do anything with it I suspect I would be trying more things like drilling holes in the case ;)

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It also probably keeps you from being able to buy a €20 phone. There are trade-offs in nearly anything.

If you're talking about smartphones, no smartphone is really that cheap. They get you later.

Lumia 520: $30

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This is awful advice! Losing a smartphone isn't going to ruin me, but it sure would piss me off to have to fork out £500 or whatever because it gets jacked. Similarly, someone could break into my house and clean it out. Not going to ruin me, but I'd rather not have to replace everything. The whole point of insurance is collective risk-spreading. Yes, this means that the majority (by value) of people with insurance wi…

No, that what you gave is awful advice, to anyone who cares about their money! Go talk to an _honest_ insurance broker (not some State Farm or other company you see on TV commercials) or better yet a financial adviser. You should reserve an insurance claim for catastrophic issues only. You should also have max deductibles. Forking over 500 for a lost iPhone is a MUCH cheaper deal than paying insurance premiums for th…

I don't think there's any debate about the benefits of a high deductible, or that you should avoid claiming on insurance if you judge that the extra expenditure is worth saving your claim-free status.

I'm in the UK, so I can't help but assume there are differences in the insurance market. I have a comprehensive insurance policy that covers buildings, contents and accidental damage, and that covers things like smartphones too. Despite a couple of previous claims for stolen and damaged electronics, the rates are pretty good. The marginal cost for accidental damage is minimal.

But yes, low deductibles are a sucker's game.

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Just a note to anyone here who may be having this problem: I had an early 2011 MBP, the GPU died three times in three months. Apple charged me $300 to fix it the first time, did it for free the second time because it was still under repair warranty, and then replaced the machine entirely with a brand new 15" MBPr the third time. Obviously, the fact that it failed three times in as many months is unacceptable (and pro…

Same thing for me, but mine was a 2009 17" MBR and didn't start failing until earlier this year

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If you're talking about smartphones, no smartphone is really that cheap. They get you later.

Lumia 520: $30

OK, sorry. My broader point, though, is that cell phones are in most cases priced in a dishonest way by hiding the cost of the phone in different places and saying the phone is only however much money.

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Yes, this problem is widespread and unacknowledged by Apple. https://www.change.org/p/timothy-d-cook-replace-or-fix-all-2... It's ludicrous that to attempt to fix this problem, you would have to go so far as to bake your laptop. It cost me over $US 500 to get this fixed at an Apple Store.

Had two 2007 MacBook Pro's break down that way. Local Apple Care Service providers didn't want to apply Apple-mandated extended warranty. I was pretty disappointed to find out that later models exhibited similar flaws, because the soldering issue of 2007 models was blamed on nVidia. When a friend was buying her mother a christmas present iPad, I went with her to examine which models handle the tablet workload better.…

Nvidia made a run of defective GPUs somewhere around 2007-2008. Tom's Hardware claims[0] that all G84 and G86 GPUs other than warranty replacements produced in late 20008 are defective.

It's not a BGA solder issue like we've seen on numerous laptop GPUs over the years, but a problem with the internal interconnects. Heating it, as if to reflow a BGA does temporarily solve the problem, but in my experience, the period of time it keeps working after heating gets shorter each time.

[0] http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-g84-g86-chips-overhe...

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How did you get your T420 to have no heating issues? What processor/GPU combo do you have? I have a T420 and have major heating issues with it playing games. I've tried everything: thinkpad fan control that turns the fan up to 7000RPM, clearing everything out with compressed air, replacing the thermal paste.. After a few years of observations, I think the problem may lie in software.. It seems like when I'm playing g…

My wife uses my older T420 with a dual core i7 and an nvidia workstation GPU of some sort as a Sims 3/4 machine with Windows 8 and never has heat issues. I'm currently using a W530 with Red Hat 6 for work and it gets hot occasionally but never enough to feel more than mildly uncomfortable to the touch and certainly never enough to cause any short term problems. Granted, I only ever use it for running a few VMs, not f…

I've wondered that too about other manufactures defects, that they probably suffer the same flaws with the bad ball solder on the GPUs but they didn't sell the same numbers as a MBP so it goes unnoticed.
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