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Why I Drilled Holes in My MacBook Pro and Put It in the Oven

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Re: Why I Drilled Holes in My MacBook Pro and Put It in the Oven

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Even if it won't ruin you, unexpectedly having to shell out over a thousand dollars for a new laptop might be so much of a hassle that it's worth "wasting" a few bucks each month to not have to worry about it.

Put those few bucks each month into some interest bearing account and then it can be used for many purposes instead of just a new laptop?

$40 a year in a savings account isn't going to net you much.

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I have question related to this issue. Which MacBook model, new, refurbished or used, should I buy if I want it to last as long as possible and be useful for doing OS X-specific programming tasks?

I'm going to say MacBook Air - it runs cool equipped with solid-state components and integrated graphics. Whichever one you choose, make sure you get the SSD storage option, as it will run much cooler and simply perform better.

It amazes me that Apple still ships computers with spinning hard drives in 2014, let alone a laptop.

Re: Why I Drilled Holes in My MacBook Pro and Put It in the Oven

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I'll never understand those that insist on doing real work, or gaming, with a laptop. When dealing with a GPU, and especially one made by nvidia, you're battling with the laws of physics. Super hot things make other, nearby things, super hot. Even with proper cooling, nvidia chips overheat and die. Anyone that has had nvidia already knows this. They have a lifetime of a year or two, max. Get a desktop already. At lea…

There are a lot of reasons why someone wouldn't buy a gaming desktop.

1. They just spent $2000+ on a laptop and don't want to / can't afford to spend another $1500+ (desktop + decent display).

2. They only game occasionally.

3. They don't want to own more stuff.

4. Their laptop has a warranty which covers any GPU issues.

In my case all of these apply.

Re: Why I Drilled Holes in My MacBook Pro and Put It in the Oven

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I always recommend looking into having laptops covered through your insurance company. I have state farm, and my wife and I have our laptops under personal article policies. The coverage is better, broader, and cheaper that anything else I've seen. My wife recently got a surface pro 3 to use during her forest soils PhD, and I was adamant we get nice insurance if she was going to be using it in the field. Two years of…

Don't buy insurance for things that won't ruin you. The insurer will calculate the risk of whatever happening, and obviously charge more than likelihood * cost. So unless your risk is higher than average, you're losing money. And keep in mind that the average insurance taker probably has higher risk than the overall population.

I generally agree. However: If you are risk pooling with much lower-risk devices and people, then you can still come out ahead. For example, maybe most people buying that kind of coverage are buying it for devices that rarely break or are lost/damaged -- they might be simply insuring against theft while you're using the damage coverage.

Re: Why I Drilled Holes in My MacBook Pro and Put It in the Oven

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't buy insurance for things that won't ruin you. The insurer will calculate the risk of whatever happening, and obviously charge more than likelihood * cost. So unless your risk is higher than average, you're losing money. And keep in mind that the average insurance taker probably has higher risk than the overall population.

This is awful advice! Losing a smartphone isn't going to ruin me, but it sure would piss me off to have to fork out £500 or whatever because it gets jacked. Similarly, someone could break into my house and clean it out. Not going to ruin me, but I'd rather not have to replace everything. The whole point of insurance is collective risk-spreading. Yes, this means that the majority (by value) of people with insurance wi…

Over time, you're probably paying 2x or 3x in insurance premiums compared with what the loss would be.

Consider also the overall effect if you invested the premiums instead of paying them.

Re: Why I Drilled Holes in My MacBook Pro and Put It in the Oven

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This is one of the philosophical beefs I've developed against discrete GPU's, particularly in laptops. I've been using 13" unibodies with iGP's (Sandy, Ivy, Hassy vintages) and haven't had any of these problems. Bad stick of RAM, sure, but I blame samsung or whoever their supplier was. But most of the MBP deaths I've heard about from friends have been with AMD/nVidia GPU daughter cards on the 15's. My rMBP 13" also has side vents and vents under the screen which are very much unblocked and unobstructed.

It might be also I don't game on laptops...I save that for a desktop with a GTX670 card and plenty of fans..

Re: Why I Drilled Holes in My MacBook Pro and Put It in the Oven

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post #140

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A T420 with no heat issues whatsoever. [edit] Not a great image but you can see where the vents are on the back and the left hand side on this image: https://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSpIDoMt_OkYzjIF9E6... Doesn't matter how far I fold the screen back, the vents aren't blocked by it.

How did you get your T420 to have no heating issues? What processor/GPU combo do you have? I have a T420 and have major heating issues with it playing games. I've tried everything: thinkpad fan control that turns the fan up to 7000RPM, clearing everything out with compressed air, replacing the thermal paste.. After a few years of observations, I think the problem may lie in software.. It seems like when I'm playing g…

Every heating issue I had with my T420 is solved by opening up the laptop and thoroughly cleaning with compressed air. It will stays good for a few years until the dust gathers up again.

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> ever again I don't understand this claim. They are still calling hot devices laptops today . Do you mean that at some point in the future they will stop, and then they will never again call these devices laptops?

I don't think Apple ever calls any of their machines 'laptops' – that's the point.

That's true, but I have a hard time believing it has anything to do with the fact that their laptops can get really hot. It's clearly marketing to differentiate themselves from their competitors.

Re: Why I Drilled Holes in My MacBook Pro and Put It in the Oven

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I'll never understand those that insist on doing real work, or gaming, with a laptop. When dealing with a GPU, and especially one made by nvidia, you're battling with the laws of physics. Super hot things make other, nearby things, super hot. Even with proper cooling, nvidia chips overheat and die. Anyone that has had nvidia already knows this. They have a lifetime of a year or two, max. Get a desktop already. At lea…

There are a lot of reasons why someone wouldn't buy a gaming desktop. 1. They just spent $2000+ on a laptop and don't want to / can't afford to spend another $1500+ (desktop + decent display). 2. They only game occasionally. 3. They don't want to own more stuff. 4. Their laptop has a warranty which covers any GPU issues. In my case all of these apply.

Congrats? You have everything you want, and no license to complain when your Macbook overheats and dies I guess. And you also seem to recognize that it will die. As long as you use the right tool for the right job, sure...
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