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Re: Programming languages and Frameworks to learn in 2015

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Only if you mean web applications. Many do write desktop applications.

Not only web applications. There's all the iOS devs, for instance. Pretty big market, and it's rather hard to do this job on a Windows machine.

Those are not on GNU/Linux systems.

As for the market size it is a matter of perspective. On my home country iOS comes out on third place.

Re: Programming languages and Frameworks to learn in 2015

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Hi, I’m in my third year in a French IT School. I’ve used A LOT of C/C++ during my first years and now I’m learning bit of Java and C#. I learned Ruby On Rails through a 6 months internship while I was in my first year and I fell in love with the ruby world. I also used some OCaml (and this is actually great!) and some x86_64 ASM at school. So I’ve read all your comments and I’ve seen a lot of kind of esoteric langua…

Erlang or Haskell - rare, but esoteric?? I don't think it's fair to lump them into the same category as Rust (which may or may not gain popularity, it's too early to say), or Nim (now that's truly an esoteric one).

Well Erlang and Haskell aren't the most common programming languages that I can think of. I've never seen any job offer (in my area) for those. But I often find articles talking about what people achieve using those and I find it fun but are they really useful in the 'grown ups' world?

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Erlang or Haskell - rare, but esoteric?? I don't think it's fair to lump them into the same category as Rust (which may or may not gain popularity, it's too early to say), or Nim (now that's truly an esoteric one).

Well Erlang and Haskell aren't the most common programming languages that I can think of. I've never seen any job offer (in my area) for those. But I often find articles talking about what people achieve using those and I find it fun but are they really useful in the 'grown ups' world?

They are both very useful for solving real world problems, yes.

Re: Programming languages and Frameworks to learn in 2015

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Erlang or Haskell - rare, but esoteric?? I don't think it's fair to lump them into the same category as Rust (which may or may not gain popularity, it's too early to say), or Nim (now that's truly an esoteric one).

Well Erlang and Haskell aren't the most common programming languages that I can think of. I've never seen any job offer (in my area) for those. But I often find articles talking about what people achieve using those and I find it fun but are they really useful in the 'grown ups' world?

Well, maybe it's a matter of naming here, because while of course they're very domain specific - an esoteric programming language is one that's rather not designed with usability in mind (but as a joke, or to prove some point etc).

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esoteric_programming_language or http://esolangs.org/wiki/Language_list - noone would put Haskell under that category...

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Well Erlang and Haskell aren't the most common programming languages that I can think of. I've never seen any job offer (in my area) for those. But I often find articles talking about what people achieve using those and I find it fun but are they really useful in the 'grown ups' world?

They are both very useful for solving real world problems, yes.

Well would you say to someone who is going to look for an IT job in a few years to learn those languages?

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They are both very useful for solving real world problems, yes.

Well would you say to someone who is going to look for an IT job in a few years to learn those languages?

For the most part yes, but it depends on the position they're trying to get.

Re: Programming languages and Frameworks to learn in 2015

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C#, obviously. It's the only modern language that provides ALL of the following: 1) Static and dynamic typing 2) OOP and functional paradigms 3) Multi-platform via single framework: WP, Android, iOS, Mac, PC, Xbox, PS4, Linux etc. 4) Two super-powerful IDE-integrated static analysis tools to choose from: ReSharper and Roslyn 5) Mature workflows for developing Web, mobile, enterprise apps and games. 6) High performanc…

No powerful IDE on Linux / OS X.

I thought linux developpers didn't use IDEs...damn time have changed !

Re: Programming languages and Frameworks to learn in 2015

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I am rooting for Haxe (as a language, compiler & set of tools) and Lua (for embedded system programming). They rock!! BTW, they are the next generation programming languages.

> BTW, they are the next generation programming languages. What does this mean? You mean like those: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth-generation_programming_la... ?

Yes, the 5GL. "The fifth-generation languages are designed to make the computer solve a given problem without the programmer. This way, the programmer only needs to worry about what problems need to be solved and what conditions need to be met, without worrying about how to implement a routine or algorithm to solve them".

The two languages{same as a set of tools, compilers,e.t.c} would do that.

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