Pax Mongolica
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Pax Mongolica
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#2It also completely destroyed Russian culture for example and set them back hundreds of years[1]. Payments to Mongols continued up until almost 1500.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_of_Rus%27#Impac...
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#3It also completely destroyed Russian culture for example and set them back hundreds of years[1]. Payments to Mongols continued up until almost 1500. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_of_Rus%27#Impac...
It's debatable, but from your reference it seems like the opposite:
It has been argued[by whom?] that without the Mongol destruction of Kievan Rus', the Tsardom of Russia and subsequently the Russian Empire would not have risen. Trade routes with the East came through the Rus' lands, making them a center for trade from both worlds. Mongol influence, while destructive to their enemies, had a significant long term effect on the rise of modern Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus.
— http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_of_Rus%27#Impac...
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#4It also completely destroyed Russian culture for example and set them back hundreds of years[1]. Payments to Mongols continued up until almost 1500. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_of_Rus%27#Impac...
It's debatable, but from your reference it seems like the opposite: It has been argued[by whom?] that without the Mongol destruction of Kievan Rus', the Tsardom of Russia and subsequently the Russian Empire would not have risen. Trade routes with the East came through the Rus' lands, making them a center for trade from both worlds. Mongol influence, while destructive to their enemies, had a significant long term effe…
It seems unlikely, considering the fact that the lands conquered by Mongols were later the most backward parts of Europe till at least XXth century.
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#5It also completely destroyed Russian culture for example and set them back hundreds of years[1]. Payments to Mongols continued up until almost 1500. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_of_Rus%27#Impac...
It doesn't. Even link you provided says about that. In fact, according to many historians, the only reason which made Mongolian expansion possible, was high degree of infighting and corruption within seized territories. This concerns not only Rus, but Bulgars, Khwarezm, etc. By establishing strong "fair" law they stopped long lasted inner-conflicts and "made life better".
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#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's debatable, but from your reference it seems like the opposite: It has been argued[by whom?] that without the Mongol destruction of Kievan Rus', the Tsardom of Russia and subsequently the Russian Empire would not have risen. Trade routes with the East came through the Rus' lands, making them a center for trade from both worlds. Mongol influence, while destructive to their enemies, had a significant long term effe…
It seems unlikely, considering the fact that the lands conquered by Mongols were later the most backward parts of Europe till at least XXth century.
Nevertheless, Mongolian cities of 12-13 centuries had lots of gardens, hospitals, they had plumbing, sewerage system...
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#7The Mongol invasion, although destructive for probably all civilizations of the time, had definitively a positive effect to the survival of eastern romance culture. In the dark ages the amount of migrating population was so great that for quite some time they outnumbered the descendants of the former Roman Empire around Carpathians and Balkans. The dominance of the vulgar-Latin speaking population suffered serious setbacks and were being confined to smaller and smaller less accessible areas like mountainous regions. The west-most areas of the Mongol raids were around Carpathian Mountains up to Pannonian Basin and were they went through, they basically cleaned the densely-populated lowland of the most of its inhabitants. Its a known fact that the Mongol incursions were disastrous for Hungarians, Poles, Russians, and other populations that were in the region at the time, but on the other hand they were vital for romance population. Of course, the romance population suffered from those raids too, along with other cohabitant populations, but after that, that mountain-descending romance population become dominant again. Have not Mongols come, the fate of the eastern romance population around Carpathians would have been the same as the one of the former eastern romance populations south of Danube - for a while they probably would have managed to manifest some cultural and even political power (like the Vlach-Bulgar Empire of Asănești), but in the end they would have been assimilated completely.
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#8Folks, what is this doing here?
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#9Folks, what is this doing here?
Somebody's been browsing Wikipedia while watching Marco Polo.
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#10The Mongol horde displayed unparalleled ruthlessness in Eastern Iran:
The garrison at Merv was only about 12,000 men, and the city was inundated with refugees from eastern Khwarezmia. For six days, Tolui besieged the city, and on the seventh day, he assaulted the city. However, the garrison beat back the assault and launched their own counter-attack against the Mongols. The garrison force was similarly forced back into the city. The next day, the city's governor surrendered the city on Tolui's promise that the lives of the citizens would be spared. As soon as the city was handed over, however, Tolui slaughtered almost every person who surrendered, in a massacre possibly on a greater scale than that at Urgench.