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Be lucky - it's an easy skill to learn

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Re: Be lucky - it's an easy skill to learn

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Totally true. Anxiety saps all kinds of brain power.

I'm not so sure. I've found a certain level of anxiety can make me perform better at things. Complacency can be dangerous too in my experience.

True but anxiety tends to narrow focus and depending on what you are trying to accomplish it can either help or hurt.

Re: Be lucky - it's an easy skill to learn

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think in your search for a contrary example, you're looking at it in the wrong way. The focus of the unlucky pessimist will lead them unerringly to the stairs, whether or not that's the best option. The lucky optimist won't foolishly do what no one should ever do, but instead notice that the open elevator shaft has a ladder that someone else just safely used to escape. Being lucky doesn't mean you have to be stupid…

Take this thought experiment to its extreme and the unlucky should have gone extinct. The fact that both lucky and unlucky personality types persist, suggest both have advantages.

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Re: Be lucky - it's an easy skill to learn

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Dammit, where's Eliezer Yudkowsky when you need him. I'm pretty sure he'll have an interesting take on this.

BEHOLD, I AM HERE! MBlume posted the article to LW here: http://lesswrong.com/lw/1b9/do_the_unlucky_systematically_un... If you want me to say something stunningly intelligent about it, um... ah... okay, how about this: Since we know at the start of the problem that luck in the supernatural sense doesn't really exist, we would expect people experiencing systematic exogenous runs of genuine good or bad luck to be rare…

If the data is valid, I think the article establishes rather well that people who call themselves "lucky" are indeed measurably different from people who call themselves "unlucky." The latter group blew the photo-counting test, for instance.

It is at that point where I would inject your perspective. What other measurable differences are there? Are "lucky" people wealthier? Healthier? Laid more? Etc.

Then there's the matter of training people for greater "luck." I agree, the article is sketchy here, and I'm not sure of a reliable way to measure an increase in "luck" (unless we assume that the "unlucky" can be expected to flunk the photo count indefinitely).

In essence, I think the article is 1/3 of the way there. True, "lucky" people differ from "unlucky" people. So let's figure out if they differ in ways that we care about, and if we can make "unlucky" people become "lucky." Then we'll have something.

Re: Be lucky - it's an easy skill to learn

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post #52

Parcel this up as a message about making your own luck or being determined, taking advantage of opportunities or consciously priming your selection bias in your favour, and some kinds of people are all over it. Parcel up the same message as positive thinking, cosmic ordering, the law of attraction or subjective reality, and the same types trip over themselves to be the first to ridicule it. And it does seem to be the…

Yeah? Let's train people in the law of attraction and compare them to people trained to be non -supernaturally lucky, and see who gets luckier.

Given that the supernatural doesn't exist, if the training teaches a similarly useful change in behaviour, they should get a similar increase in luck as defined by Prof. Wiseman in the article.

Re: Be lucky - it's an easy skill to learn

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post #25

Dammit, where's Eliezer Yudkowsky when you need him. I'm pretty sure he'll have an interesting take on this.

BEHOLD, I AM HERE! MBlume posted the article to LW here: http://lesswrong.com/lw/1b9/do_the_unlucky_systematically_un... If you want me to say something stunningly intelligent about it, um... ah... okay, how about this: Since we know at the start of the problem that luck in the supernatural sense doesn't really exist, we would expect people experiencing systematic exogenous runs of genuine good or bad luck to be rare…

Why say that "luckiness doesn't really exist"? I expected you to say something like, luckiness is just the term that people have always used as a catch-all to sum up all the things that matter, but they lack the ability to describe in any further detail.
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