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Re: Look, no hands

#91
Have you checked Dr. Sarno's approach for RSI and related problems. If you have tried all those options and they didn't work you should definitely give a try.

You can check a story very similar to mine: http://www.pgbovine.net/back-pain-guest-article.htm

Disclaimer: I am CS PhD student in a top tier US school. Suffered from RSI, tried everything. Was cured by Dr. Sarno's technique.

Re: Look, no hands

#92
post #69

I'm Michelle (the girl in the video). This thread is really fascinating to me. I'll add some more details to the discussion below. I was diagnosed with epicodylitis (tennis albow) and I tried a range of different treatments: electrical therapy, accipunture, anti-inflammatory tablets and some kind of light therapy(?) But without any results (probably why I can't remember the last treatment). Also notised there were so…

Michelle, you are in inspiration!

Have you found yourself having different design ideas after this change? Or having developed a new style in your creations because of "mistakes" you make when you can't control your nose very well?!

Can you mention examples where you ended up designing differently?

Re: Look, no hands

#94
post #69

I'm Michelle (the girl in the video). This thread is really fascinating to me. I'll add some more details to the discussion below. I was diagnosed with epicodylitis (tennis albow) and I tried a range of different treatments: electrical therapy, accipunture, anti-inflammatory tablets and some kind of light therapy(?) But without any results (probably why I can't remember the last treatment). Also notised there were so…

That was really, really inspiring.

I don't know (or care) what most people associate with "Genius", but I couldn't help that word from reverberating around my mind when I was reading about your setup.

I want to ask you so many things! Would you be open to an AMA (ask me anything) of some sort? A few things that I'm curious about:

General

* How do you click? Do you have tap-to-click turned on, or do you use press harder with your nose to trigger the magic trackpad's "click" threshold? If the latter, does your nose hurt after prolonger use?

* What kind of gestures do you have? What kind of gestures would you create, if you could create any gestures at all? Have you found third-party software to facilitate this? (I imagine the default software hasn't considered mouth gestures at all)

* Do you use this setup for your creative work alone, or for casual computer usage as well?

Performance & Accuracy

* You mention that you've gained the same level of accuracy as with your hands, and that's the most important factor (to me, at least). A secondary one, though, would be speed. Do you notice any considerable difference in your "input performance" when you use the nose/mouth setup vs. traditional input methods? How was your learning curve with respect to accuracy and then speed? (I'd expect you to have gained accuracy first and then built up performance over time)

* What's your pointer speed & acceleration like? I imagine both to be quite low, otherwise you'd have to perform very precise and minute movements in order to to high-precision stuff. For example, can you move your pointer from top-left corner of your screen to your bottom right with one movement? (I would think not). Is that the kind of thing that you'd complement with a mouse?

* Tangent on previous question: Are your "nosepad" settings (speed/accel) different than your trackpad/mouse settings? If not, is that a System limitation that you have accepted (optimizing for the nosepad, I'd imagine)?

Social

* Do you receive negative real-world reactions to your setup? Are people largely accepting & encouraging?

* What kind of feedback & reactions have you received online, after publishing this?

I'd like to emphasize again that I was blown away by your creativity. You exhibit the hacker spirit to the fullest. If you receive any hate because of this, I hope my enthusiasm counteracts that a bit :) I know that one negative comment can outweigh 1000 positive ones.

EDIT - more question(s)

* How has your posture evolved through time? I'd be surprised if you never had issues with your back/neck, but it seems that you've found the right posture that minimizes that strain.

Re: Look, no hands

#95
SmartNav by NaturalPoint (http://www.naturalpoint.com/smartnav/). I'm using it for over 8 years for moving the cursor. Clicking is via a regular mouse, though voice and switches are supported. All typing is done through an on-screen virtual keyboard (Hot Virtual Keyboard). After short self-training the speed and accuracy are above of a regular mouse. Neck fatigue is a rare issue even after 8-10 hours of daily usage, the "trick" is calibrating the settings for minimal movement. I'm using this setup for everything from programming to some light gaming (RTS). Adjusting and configuring the environment can bring substantial improvement. For example, using ReSharper for Visual Studio vastly reduces typing.

Re: Look, no hands

#97
post #17

The elasticity of the brain is incredibly impressive. Very neat solution. My parents are surgeons, and I know they worry at least a little bit about the safety of their hands. While my hands are definitely very important to my being able to work I know I don't worry as much as they do. That's funny, because for the most part I think about Carpal Tunnel Syndrome as a career-ending condition. I recently suffered some a…

I used to have lots of issues in the neck and shoulders. I started going to a gym and focused mainly on training neck, back and arms carefully. It has completely removed all my symptoms in the last 6 years.

I also started using a wacom tablet as a mouse replacement. The absolute positioning of the pen removes all these small-dragging-motions.

Re: Look, no hands

#98

I stopped using mice, knobs (IBM/Lenovo) and touchpads (built-in or external) probably twenty years ago. A few months into an intense design project I started to feel burning pain on my wrists. I was working 18 hour days, 7 days a week. Yes, if I was awake I was in front of the computer. This was a hardware and software project and I was doing it all. This meant lots of precise motion at times. Running Solidworks or…

second the photo request....

Re: Look, no hands

#99
I had RSI 3 times. The first time I did not know what it was and ended-up not being able to hold a pen. Took many months of recovery and I was lucky my doctor knew what it was. I had heat treatment, some sort of laser and vibration therapies and a couple of other things. Don't know which of them helped, but they sure did.

The second time, I was in a different country and was sent to a surgeon. He had no clue what RSI was and said that I should not worry until it gets worse and ready for Carpal Tunnel surgery. I said "no thanks" and found a sports therapist instead who was ready to help.

The main lesson here is that "see a doctor" does not always work. I am sure if I saw surgeon the first time, I'd be having some stitches on my wrists right now. Back then, RSI was not well known thing at all. Hopefully, it is more easily recognized now.

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