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Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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They're trying a correlation attack on the network. Create enough entries and exits, then matching traffic by time, size, and shape.

Do you know this? It seems obvious to me, but calling it a "0day" suggests that maybe the attack is (at least marginally) more sophisticated than the obvious correlation attack. Not to mention, as far as I can see, we have no idea.

To date, no one to date has presented a reliable, scalable, consistent passive correlation algorithm.

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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It still does mean happy! Nothing has changed there. We've just added homosexual to the list of things associated with the word "gay." When "gay" is used in the "happy" sense, context is what differentiates it from the more recent homosexual sense. "hacker" is no different. Really then, it's about more effective writing, insuring the context of "hacker" is clear from the surrounding context. What we lost in both inst…

To be honest, I never knew that "gay" meant "happy" until I watched The Three Caballeros in English

You and a whole lot of other people, until they see something presenting it.

I had to explain the shift to my kids once. It was sort of interesting after that time. We notice it, and they will often comment on something picking up a new meaning now.

That suggests to me a lot of people remain unaware of "overloading" words in that way.

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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Well based on what they did, they obviously can't advertise their work. They also won't have any interest in working for SV companies. The only kind of job they are after is in the black market (organized crime and intelligence).

You can't even get into intelligence anymore after doing this, lol. They'd never pass the background checks.

They hire contractors. Most intelligence works are "outsourced." http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/nsa-leaks-put-focus-o...

A plausible example is hiring a team to DDoS another State-sponsored infrastructure from outside of U.S. soil. Or hire some elite crackers to write custom software for them.

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You can't even get into intelligence anymore after doing this, lol. They'd never pass the background checks.

They hire contractors. Most intelligence works are "outsourced." http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/nsa-leaks-put-focus-o... A plausible example is hiring a team to DDoS another State-sponsored infrastructure from outside of U.S. soil. Or hire some elite crackers to write custom software for them.

You still get investigated even if you are a contractor. I know many of them firsthand, and they tell me that contractors are put under additional scrutiny, actually. You need a high-level clearance for this sort of work done on behalf of the government, regardless of your employer.

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They hire contractors. Most intelligence works are "outsourced." http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/nsa-leaks-put-focus-o... A plausible example is hiring a team to DDoS another State-sponsored infrastructure from outside of U.S. soil. Or hire some elite crackers to write custom software for them.

You still get investigated even if you are a contractor. I know many of them firsthand, and they tell me that contractors are put under additional scrutiny, actually. You need a high-level clearance for this sort of work done on behalf of the government, regardless of your employer.

Glad to know, but I still feel some of contract works require high-level clearance or background check.

If they just need a crack tool, they just need an agent to pay someone to write the tool and that doesn't give away information. Maybe I am spoiled by TV shows how they contact elite hackers in the black market.

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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You still get investigated even if you are a contractor. I know many of them firsthand, and they tell me that contractors are put under additional scrutiny, actually. You need a high-level clearance for this sort of work done on behalf of the government, regardless of your employer.

Glad to know, but I still feel some of contract works require high-level clearance or background check. If they just need a crack tool, they just need an agent to pay someone to write the tool and that doesn't give away information. Maybe I am spoiled by TV shows how they contact elite hackers in the black market.

Yeah, there's a lot more bureaucracy involved. I know people who used to work at these sorts of places. It's a wonder that anything gets accomplished, at all.

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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Tor Devs haven't made any announcement yet, there is, however, a discussion about it on the mailing list: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2014-Decembe... If you use Tor, I would follow the suggestion by another member of the mailing list [1], simply add to your torrc file: ExcludeNodes US StrictNodes 1 That will disallow using any US nodes, which works since all of LizardNSA's nodes are currently in t…

Supposed response from "lizards@riseup.net": > Why? I assure you, our exits are just fine. What's with people responding so negatively to us donating 360Gbit/s of exit BW? EDIT: From @lizardmafia: > To clarify, we are no longer attacking PSN or Xbox. We are testing our new Tor 0day. > Only hackers, miscreants and pedophiles use Tor.

"> Only hackers, miscreants and pedophiles use Tor." you must be a full blown moron. Tor is used by journalists, bloggers, gov employees, chinese dissidents and all sorts of ppl in peril. go shoot yourself

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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"Only hackers, miscreants and pedophiles use Tor." Oh please. They're trying to take the moral high ground to justify their behaviour.

What is trolling?

An excuse for being an asshole.... but real trolling is done with finesse, intelligence, humour and a pinch of salted evil.
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