Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Many Android bugs with 500+ stars closed as obsolete on December 25

code.google.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

31–40 of 201 posts

Re: Many Android bugs with 500+ stars closed as obsolete on December 25

#31

Post by valvar »

munchhausen wrote: post #24

This is very unpalatable, and makes me reconsider whether my next phone will, again, be an Android device. This sort of "fuck you" attitude towards legitimate feedback and valid bug reports from users doesn't bode well for Google, and indicates that any talk of "openness" of Android is just that - empty talk. If the Android development process is going to be a 100% closed, cathedral-type endeavour, I might as well ge…

You say that as if iPhone is the only alternative, while in fact there (will soon be) lots of alternatives. Right now there's the Jolla, which I personally own (and it's fantastic), but soon we'll also see the Neo900 which will be almost as free and open as you can get, and on the horizon Firefox OS and Ubuntu phones are looming.

Re: Many Android bugs with 500+ stars closed as obsolete on December 25

#32

Post by sangnoir »

gst wrote: post #16
gcb0 wrote: post #3

all my bugs from android 2.3 (still heavily used in the us and out) up to android 4.2 were closed as obsolete. several are somewhat fixed on 5.0 (most by removing the feature) but nothing about support even nexus devices from 2.5 years ago. 3 were security ones confirmed by a few comments. I've been getting obsolete emails on my low profile bugs since November all the way to Dec 25... Google just gave up. i think nob…

The last device sold by Google that now runs an Android release of 4.2 or earlier was (afaik) the Nexus S - which was released in 2010. I think it's reasonable to stop support for a particular device after something like 4 years. Yes, there are other 3rd party manufacturers that sold devices based on such outdated versions up until recently. But why should it be Google's task to provide updates for these devices? Tha…

I have a Galaxy Nexus (2011) that's stuck on 4.2. I wouldn't mind receiving bug-fix releases.

Re: Many Android bugs with 500+ stars closed as obsolete on December 25

#33

Post by iamcreasy »

gst wrote: post #16
gcb0 wrote: post #3

all my bugs from android 2.3 (still heavily used in the us and out) up to android 4.2 were closed as obsolete. several are somewhat fixed on 5.0 (most by removing the feature) but nothing about support even nexus devices from 2.5 years ago. 3 were security ones confirmed by a few comments. I've been getting obsolete emails on my low profile bugs since November all the way to Dec 25... Google just gave up. i think nob…

The last device sold by Google that now runs an Android release of 4.2 or earlier was (afaik) the Nexus S - which was released in 2010. I think it's reasonable to stop support for a particular device after something like 4 years. Yes, there are other 3rd party manufacturers that sold devices based on such outdated versions up until recently. But why should it be Google's task to provide updates for these devices? Tha…

Not every part of the world changes at the same pace. There are places where a device running Android 4.2 are the best one on the market.

That being said, its extremely frustrating to see this happening.

Re: Many Android bugs with 500+ stars closed as obsolete on December 25

#34

Post by edent »

6 years after being reported, Android still doesn't support downloading .ics files.

https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1257

Makes it impossible to add events from websites.

It's very frustrating that there doesn't seem to be anyone at Google who looks at bugs. It's all about creating "cool" experiences without the tedious work of fixing bugs.

Re: Many Android bugs with 500+ stars closed as obsolete on December 25

#35

Post by mfisher87 »

titaniumdecoy wrote: post #21
mfisher87 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most major companies, to me, seem to be following Apple's example and forcing a shorter support lifecycle for each device, expecting users to simply replace their "obsolete" device with the newest one.

This is a common but completely unfair criticism of Apple. Plenty of people complained when iOS 7 was made available for the iPhone 4 (because the hardware was too slow to run it properly). And Apple still sells and supports relatively ancient hardware (the iPad mini) as a result of their current strategy of selling last year's model as the second-best option.

I wouldn't say it's completely unfair. Using proprietary data/charging cables and changing the design every so often, obsoleting whole generations of products seems like behavior consistent with my criticism.

Re: Many Android bugs with 500+ stars closed as obsolete on December 25

#36

Post by higherpurpose »

krschultz wrote: post #22

At some point in a long living project, you have to declare some bugs are #wontfix. You are just lieing to yourself if you think you will ever get to the end of the bug backlog. It also can become an anchor, the team is focused solely on fixing bugs here and there instead of moving the ball forward (and hopefully fixing more fundamental problems along the way). I've made the call to mass close tickets like this. It's…

This reminds me. Google has the (rather great) Google Moderator tool - so why aren't they using it on a site where Android fans can ask Google properly for features? Using that "issues" list for features is such a pain.

Right now if the community wants a new certain feature or they really hate one of the already implemented features, it has to make a big fuss about it on r/Android, an unofficial feedback channel.

Re: Many Android bugs with 500+ stars closed as obsolete on December 25

#37

Post by jspaetzel »

I'm not sure if you guys actually even looked at what these requests were but most of them are irrelevant and rightly so... obsolete/irrelevant features. To choose one particular example that stood out to me from the first page with 198 stars: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1140

I wont even get started on how much information this is lacking for it to be actually executed. The point being that most of the ones in the list have not even been touched in over a year and more closely resemble a Christmas wishlist than actual issues. They should be closed since they are cluttering up the workflow of real problems and it would be a waste of an engineer's time to respond to them all adequately.

If they are still relevant a year later maybe you should go through and do something productive like creating a new issue with updated details.

Re: Many Android bugs with 500+ stars closed as obsolete on December 25

#38

Post by CmonDev »

krschultz wrote: post #22

At some point in a long living project, you have to declare some bugs are #wontfix. You are just lieing to yourself if you think you will ever get to the end of the bug backlog. It also can become an anchor, the team is focused solely on fixing bugs here and there instead of moving the ball forward (and hopefully fixing more fundamental problems along the way). I've made the call to mass close tickets like this. It's…

"At some point in a long living project, you have to declare some bugs are #wontfix." - that point is called "dying".

Re: Many Android bugs with 500+ stars closed as obsolete on December 25

#39

Post by sarciszewski »

yourad_io wrote: post #12
sarciszewski wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://code.google.com/p/google-security-research/issues/li... cevans => cev... (Chris Evans is known to be part of Project Zero.) Given their censorship scheme, I can't help but wonder if e...@google.com means eric@google.com? If so, the culprit is likely Eric Schmidt. EDIT: Okay, can anyone explain WHY they're downvoting this?

The same person/profile[1] who closed these issues has been merging issues as far back as 2013[2]. I doubt that would have been him. [1] https://code.google.com/u/116776574616066648526/ [2] https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=63433

Then it's someone with a 3-person last name whose first name starts with an E

Re: Many Android bugs with 500+ stars closed as obsolete on December 25

#40

Post by [deleted] »

jspaetzel wrote: post #37

I'm not sure if you guys actually even looked at what these requests were but most of them are irrelevant and rightly so... obsolete/irrelevant features. To choose one particular example that stood out to me from the first page with 198 stars: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1140 I wont even get started on how much information this is lacking for it to be actually executed. The point being that mos…

[deleted]
Post reply on HN