Free speech is last century. Today’s students want the ‘right to be comfortable’
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Re: Free speech is last century. Today’s students want the ‘right to be comfortable’
#2An interesting message that was expressed better by Allan Bloom, 30 years ago and with less rape/misogyny-apologism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Closing_of_the_American_Min....
Re: Free speech is last century. Today’s students want the ‘right to be comfortable’
#3An interesting message that was expressed better by Allan Bloom, 30 years ago and with less rape/misogyny-apologism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Closing_of_the_American_Min... .
What part of that article did you construe as rape/misogyny-apologism?
Re: Free speech is last century. Today’s students want the ‘right to be comfortable’
#4I think this is an important discussion to be had. The question of whether ideas like "trigger warnings" should be implemented in academia have good arguments on both sides. On a few of these issues I'm not sure where I stand yet and I'm very interested in hearing intelligent discourse from both sides over the next few years.
However, I don't think this is a particularly good article on the topic. It's riddled with character assassinations and complaints that fall low on the oft-cited-by-HN Graham hierarchy of argument[0]. Ironically this comment falls nearly as low because of what it is making reference to, but that's an existential issue for another day.
The author's writing paints "Stepford students" in a herdlike way, and many paragraphs open with imagery taking shots at their character. I generally love a bit of prose in an op-ed or news article, though I seem to disagree with a lot of HN readers there. But I think casual, drive-by insults are a bad idea when you're trying to point out something like group hypocrisy or make legitimate criticisms of a social movement.
[0] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Graham%27...
Re: Free speech is last century. Today’s students want the ‘right to be comfortable’
#5Re: Free speech is last century. Today’s students want the ‘right to be comfortable’
#6An interesting message that was expressed better by Allan Bloom, 30 years ago and with less rape/misogyny-apologism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Closing_of_the_American_Min... .
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Re: Free speech is last century. Today’s students want the ‘right to be comfortable’
#7Why is this sneering garbage on HN?
Look, none of this is new. Universities have always been contentious places, students have always been belligerent and uninterested in hearing the views of their opponents. This is what it is to be young: to believe fully, with or without justification. A generation ago in the US, SDS would have barricaded themselves into the room with both these master debaters and held them hostage with a list of demands for the administration. The verbs have changed, but "We demand" has not.
This is a screed from a man who is upset that he is not being handed a platform to speak. Yes, guy. People don't like you. That doesn't make this a free speech issue. No one invited me to speak at Oxford either. Just go home without your rattle.
Re: Free speech is last century. Today’s students want the ‘right to be comfortable’
#8I think this is an important discussion to be had. The question of whether ideas like "trigger warnings" should be implemented in academia have good arguments on both sides. On a few of these issues I'm not sure where I stand yet and I'm very interested in hearing intelligent discourse from both sides over the next few years. However, I don't think this is a particularly good article on the topic. It's riddled with c…
What are the good arguments FOR "trigger warnings?"
Re: Free speech is last century. Today’s students want the ‘right to be comfortable’
#9Re: Free speech is last century. Today’s students want the ‘right to be comfortable’
#10An interesting message that was expressed better by Allan Bloom, 30 years ago and with less rape/misogyny-apologism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Closing_of_the_American_Min... .
What part of that article did you construe as rape/misogyny-apologism?
The part that tickled his (her?) trigger warning, of course.