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Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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Would it be unreasonable to draw parallels to Lulzsec?

I forgot who these guys were, but yeah I reckon. IIRC LizardSquad did allegedly "disband" awhile back, I think when some heat got applied to them, but I don't know. They were repeatedly DDOSing the servers of a game I play so I started following their exploits. I do hope law enforcement catches up with these guys sooner rather than later.

When law enforcement caught up with Sabu and turned him, Lulzsec didn't stop, they actually got worse: they went through a period of unusually high activity, with Sabu at the reins, and the FBI at his reins.

Perhaps the members of LizardSquad should reflect on that.

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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I don't get it. They attack the PSN and XBox networks. Kim Schmitz gives them 3000 vouchers for Mega to save christmas (what?) and/or the world. Then they claim, he's the reason they stopped the attacks. And then they target their next victim. My point is: one might not like Kim but he is way too smart to expect such a barter to be successful. So, given his own background, what makes him this? A stupid hero? Or is th…

It was a chance to inject Mega's name into a big story. Before, the story was "Hackers steal Christmas." Now, the story is "Mega saves Christmas." Also, he probably wanted to play some video games and it's not like Mega vouchers cost him all that much, particularly considering this is basically an advertising expense.

I agree, he's very keen to clean his name and promote a shining knight image.

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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Complaints about the terms are 'no true Scotsman...' arguments. DDOSing and Botnet attacks are crude, brute-force attacks, but finesse has never been a requirement for a good hack - it's the icing on the cake but ultimately it's the result that matters. Being pompous about terms just comes across to the general public as nerd rage, much like gun aficionados whining about terminological niceties following reports of a…

> Complaints about the terms are 'no true Scotsman...' arguments. They really aren't. > Being pompous about terms just comes across to the general public as nerd rage, much like gun aficionados whining about terminological niceties following reports of a mass shooting incident. Words matter. If some fools are caught with a Molotov cocktail and the media starts reporting that they had a "nuclear weapon" because gasoli…

Words matter, but that doesn't mean one group gets to establish the definition that suits itself. 'Hacker' has been used in popular culture to include malicious computer activity since the 1980s, notwithstanding the existence of the jargon file, and folks such as yourself have been grumbling about that not being 'the true meaning' just as long. The fact is that you don't own the word, and the negative meaning has at least as much common currency as the nerdy one.

Words matter. If some fools are caught with a Molotov cocktail and the media starts reporting that they had a "nuclear weapon" because gasoline contains some radioactive carbon-14, the sane people are the ones telling anyone who will listen how stupid that is.

Wildly disproportionate analogies are not a good way to get taken more seriously.

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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PLEASE stop calling them hackers. They're DDoS kiddies who have now switched to spinning up TOR on their botnet. THESE ARE NOT HACKERS.

English is not prescriptive. That will not change no matter how hard you rage.

The word "prescriptive" generally refers to an approach to language, such as found in grammars, discussed by grammarians, etc. Not to languages themselves, which are neither descriptive nor prescriptive.

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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The thing I fear the most is cyber retaliation. So many of us have accounts on the Internet that matter to us day to day. If they are reading this (I am damn sure they are), and if they don't like you, they will try to take over your accounts and make fun of you. Fear is the most destructive and most effective weapon and such weapon is most terrible when targeting at individuals. But I still have to drop a line: plea…

Luckily, you're not important enough for people to target. Luckily, neither am I.

Well, you never know. They certainly can target you because you are working for X company and X company sounds awesome enough to exploit and place on the front page.

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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I'm always a little bit fascinated by these sorts of attacks. On one hand, I guess I understand (yet don't condone) the motivation for the 'vigilante' justice they're trying to do. On the other, I really don't understand what benefit you can get from attacking Xbox, then Sony, and finally Tor. When I think of the people doing this, I tend to think of them as understanding the importance of Tor and the benefit of anon…

I personally think they're trying to get attention for themselves to build reputation and perhaps land some sort of job / payout.

Well based on what they did, they obviously can't advertise their work. They also won't have any interest in working for SV companies. The only kind of job they are after is in the black market (organized crime and intelligence).

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

#108

UDPATE: Lizard Squad is currently being interviewed on BBC Live 5 right now: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_five_live

requires flash :( darn, wanted to listen in but I'm sure it will be done before I can get flash installed

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

#109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I forgot who these guys were, but yeah I reckon. IIRC LizardSquad did allegedly "disband" awhile back, I think when some heat got applied to them, but I don't know. They were repeatedly DDOSing the servers of a game I play so I started following their exploits. I do hope law enforcement catches up with these guys sooner rather than later.

> I do hope law enforcement catches up with these guys sooner rather than later. Me not. Sony and MS need to be taught that online DRM is a massive customer experience clusterfuck, and they will only listen and learn one way: hit 'em in their pockets. Only when enough customers are angry and demand refunds that it hurts their bottom lines, then maybe online DRM measures will be finally allowed to rot in hell.

The solution is to vote with your wallet and encourage others to do so as well, which will hit their bottom line. Attacking their network is basically acting like a petty thug, and thugs can rot in hell. Besides which, DRM-free solutions already exist for you: support developers who release their games without DRM such as via Humble Bundle, etc. Or just pirate whatever you want since you're apparently okay with illegal activity already.

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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So we just stop all use of correct language because of defeatism? Nonsense.

English exists in its current state because it is constantly changing. Adding words, changing the pronunciation/spelling and even changing the definitions of them. You aren't concerned with correctness you're concerned with image and a pet word.

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