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Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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Post by mattdeboard »

AlyssaRowan wrote: post #85
mattdeboard wrote: post #81

This group has been DDOSing game networks for quite awhile now, a year at least? Are they just super skilled at covering their tracks, are they not being investigated, is federal law enforcement not good at tracking this down yet, or what? I don't understand how a major crime spree is being conducted in public and gleefully boasted about for this long.

Would it be unreasonable to draw parallels to Lulzsec?

I forgot who these guys were, but yeah I reckon.

IIRC LizardSquad did allegedly "disband" awhile back, I think when some heat got applied to them, but I don't know. They were repeatedly DDOSing the servers of a game I play so I started following their exploits. I do hope law enforcement catches up with these guys sooner rather than later.

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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Post by unclebucknasty »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #75
anigbrowl wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Complaints about the terms are 'no true Scotsman...' arguments. DDOSing and Botnet attacks are crude, brute-force attacks, but finesse has never been a requirement for a good hack - it's the icing on the cake but ultimately it's the result that matters. Being pompous about terms just comes across to the general public as nerd rage, much like gun aficionados whining about terminological niceties following reports of a…

> Complaints about the terms are 'no true Scotsman...' arguments. They really aren't. > Being pompous about terms just comes across to the general public as nerd rage, much like gun aficionados whining about terminological niceties following reports of a mass shooting incident. Words matter. If some fools are caught with a Molotov cocktail and the media starts reporting that they had a "nuclear weapon" because gasoli…

Well, it's probably a little late to save the term. Job descriptions for devs routinely state they are looking for "hackers" with Ruby. Not to mention, we're commenting on a site called "Hacker News", which features more posts about NASA and the latest JS framework than anything "Hacker".

Words do matter, but some are abused to a point wherein they take on new meanings; grating as that may be for those who knew and appreciated the original meanings.

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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Post by alexggordon »

I'm always a little bit fascinated by these sorts of attacks.

On one hand, I guess I understand (yet don't condone) the motivation for the 'vigilante' justice they're trying to do. On the other, I really don't understand what benefit you can get from attacking Xbox, then Sony, and finally Tor.

When I think of the people doing this, I tend to think of them as understanding the importance of Tor and the benefit of anonymity it brings. However, here are people doing a DDOS attack (obviously illegal) trying to bring down the biggest illegal goods marketplace on the internet.

Maybe I'm alone in this, but outside of attention, I really don't understand any logical reason for this happening, and that really makes me dismiss any message they may have. I can comprehend being motivated by anger or some event, or just being a douchey company, but I just really don't understand what anyone besides the US Government would gain by attacking Tor.

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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Post by mschuster91 »

mattdeboard wrote: post #91
AlyssaRowan wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would it be unreasonable to draw parallels to Lulzsec?

I forgot who these guys were, but yeah I reckon. IIRC LizardSquad did allegedly "disband" awhile back, I think when some heat got applied to them, but I don't know. They were repeatedly DDOSing the servers of a game I play so I started following their exploits. I do hope law enforcement catches up with these guys sooner rather than later.

> I do hope law enforcement catches up with these guys sooner rather than later.

Me not. Sony and MS need to be taught that online DRM is a massive customer experience clusterfuck, and they will only listen and learn one way: hit 'em in their pockets. Only when enough customers are angry and demand refunds that it hurts their bottom lines, then maybe online DRM measures will be finally allowed to rot in hell.

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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Post by lizards »

I like lizards in general, but I am not too pleased about lizards that are hacking. It is, quite frankly, a disgrace.

Please be aware that the lizard community as a whole is appalled by these circumstances.

I hope that this whole bag of shenanigans does not prejudice your fine selves against lizards - whether they be lizards of the past, present, or future.

Thank you for your time.

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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Post by fckLizardNSA »

rcamera wrote: post #48

Tor Devs haven't made any announcement yet, there is, however, a discussion about it on the mailing list: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2014-Decembe... If you use Tor, I would follow the suggestion by another member of the mailing list [1], simply add to your torrc file: ExcludeNodes US StrictNodes 1 That will disallow using any US nodes, which works since all of LizardNSA's nodes are currently in t…

Seriously, these kids are lame. Using the tor node status at https://torstatus.blutmagie.de/index.php along with grep and awk, I've produced this CSV of their tor node data, including router name, IP address, hostname, and fingerprint [1].

Similarly, I've produced this torrc ExcludeNodes statement to filter out the LizardNSA nodes [2]. I'm about to append this to my own config, along with the StrictNodes directive.

These nodes should just be taken down.

1. http://pastebin.com/q70cfTAR

2. http://pastebin.com/BwzE0XCE

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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Post by angersock »

lizards wrote: post #97

I like lizards in general, but I am not too pleased about lizards that are hacking. It is, quite frankly, a disgrace. Please be aware that the lizard community as a whole is appalled by these circumstances. I hope that this whole bag of shenanigans does not prejudice your fine selves against lizards - whether they be lizards of the past, present, or future. Thank you for your time.

Do they run SUSE? This is important.

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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Post by mrmondo »

alexggordon wrote: post #95

I'm always a little bit fascinated by these sorts of attacks. On one hand, I guess I understand (yet don't condone) the motivation for the 'vigilante' justice they're trying to do. On the other, I really don't understand what benefit you can get from attacking Xbox, then Sony, and finally Tor. When I think of the people doing this, I tend to think of them as understanding the importance of Tor and the benefit of anon…

I personally think they're trying to get attention for themselves to build reputation and perhaps land some sort of job / payout.
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