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Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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This group has been DDOSing game networks for quite awhile now, a year at least? Are they just super skilled at covering their tracks, are they not being investigated, is federal law enforcement not good at tracking this down yet, or what? I don't understand how a major crime spree is being conducted in public and gleefully boasted about for this long.

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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The crackers instead of hackers war was lost 15 years ago.

Yeah, like how 'gay' can mean 'stupid' in some contexts and moaning about it is pointless.

You mean the context of xbox online chatrooms?

Why, yes, it is pointless.

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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> Complaints about the terms are 'no true Scotsman...' arguments. They really aren't. > Being pompous about terms just comes across to the general public as nerd rage, much like gun aficionados whining about terminological niceties following reports of a mass shooting incident. Words matter. If some fools are caught with a Molotov cocktail and the media starts reporting that they had a "nuclear weapon" because gasoli…

I'm old enough to remember when 'hacker' meant exactly that. Now its hip to be called a hacker; does that change its meaning? What does it mean to be a 'gangsta'? Languages change. That doesn't mean its offensive when somebody still uses the old meaning, because its how they grew up using it.

Sure, languages change, but not in a vacuum. If the media starts using the word "businesswoman" to mean an infertile woman, the jackasses are not the people who object to that usage.

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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The crackers instead of hackers war was lost 15 years ago.

So we just stop all use of correct language because of defeatism? Nonsense.

English exists in its current state because it is constantly changing. Adding words, changing the pronunciation/spelling and even changing the definitions of them. You aren't concerned with correctness you're concerned with image and a pet word.

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

#85

This group has been DDOSing game networks for quite awhile now, a year at least? Are they just super skilled at covering their tracks, are they not being investigated, is federal law enforcement not good at tracking this down yet, or what? I don't understand how a major crime spree is being conducted in public and gleefully boasted about for this long.

Would it be unreasonable to draw parallels to Lulzsec?

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The crackers instead of hackers war was lost 15 years ago.

Yeah, like how 'gay' can mean 'stupid' in some contexts and moaning about it is pointless.

Yeah, like how 'gay' can mean 'homosexual' in some contexts instead of 'happy'.

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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Kim Dotcom gave them 3000 Mega accounts yesterday, and now they seem to have created 3000 relays. Is the number just a coincidence, or are they doing it through those accounts somehow? http://torrentfreak.com/kim-dotcom-stops-xbox-and-playstatio...

Those are simply file hosting accounts, so there's ability to run something like a Tor node from them. More likely is they're using the same botnet that was attacking PSN/XBL to run Tor relays.

No, they're all on Google Compute Engine. (Which means one person could very easily stop this cold…)

Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor

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I don't usually care for the meaning of "hacker" (tinkerer or pirate) but in this case calling them "hacker", even in the mainstream meaning of the word is giving them too much credit. They're not hacking anything any more that 4chan users "hack" websites by flooding them, there's no "hack" involved in any meaning of the word. I'm sure they love being called "hackers" by the media. So yeah, I'm definitely in favor of…

I tried to tell a group of friends yesterday that the N Korean internet could have been brought down by script kiddies. When asked what that meant, I said "hackers" and everyone shook their head in agreement and said "ahh, hackers." Hackers is just a generic term these days, no use getting upset about it.

When asked what a Script Kiddie was, you could have just said they figured out how to press the Refresh button faster than most other people.

Calling them Hackers is giving in, as is looking at it as "that ship has sailed". Language is fluid, it's always changing, and all we have to do to keep the term Hacker is to keep correcting people who mis-use it.

Did Electrical Engineers give in and start calling it "sodder"? No. They correct you when you mis-pronounce the word solder. I argue this is no different.

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