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That kind of attitude is why we have people denying global warming. Terms have meaning, allowing idiots to try to muddy the waters hurts all of mankind. It has nothing to do with "Lisp nerds from MIT".
> Lisp nerds from MIT I think this may be a slight on the this site being called "hacker news" and while PG is a "lisp nerd", he never attended MIT.
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Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor
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They claim a "0day", which may just be them coopting the term from real hackers, but may also be a legitimate attack that gets around the approval period. But it appears this is all running from Google's Compute Engine. They can easily shut it down, although they're probably using stolen credit cards, so there's no real traceability there.
So the question is, why is Google not shutting them down now.
Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor
#53A bunch of children who don't know how to use Tor (take a look at the dox from TheFinest) decide to try and compromise Tor. Colour me surprised. Given that a bunch affiliated with the group's names, addresses, numbers and the like have been compromised, this doesn't seem like a very smart plan.
Is it just me, or are there huge parallels between gang culture and hacker culture?
Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor
#54Tor Devs haven't made any announcement yet, there is, however, a discussion about it on the mailing list: https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2014-Decembe... If you use Tor, I would follow the suggestion by another member of the mailing list [1], simply add to your torrc file: ExcludeNodes US StrictNodes 1 That will disallow using any US nodes, which works since all of LizardNSA's nodes are currently in t…
> Why? I assure you, our exits are just fine. What's with people responding so negatively to us donating 360Gbit/s of exit BW?
EDIT: From @lizardmafia:
> To clarify, we are no longer attacking PSN or Xbox. We are testing our new Tor 0day.
> Only hackers, miscreants and pedophiles use Tor.
Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor
#55I don't get it. They attack the PSN and XBox networks. Kim Schmitz gives them 3000 vouchers for Mega to save christmas (what?) and/or the world. Then they claim, he's the reason they stopped the attacks. And then they target their next victim. My point is: one might not like Kim but he is way too smart to expect such a barter to be successful. So, given his own background, what makes him this? A stupid hero? Or is th…
It was a chance to inject Mega's name into a big story. Before, the story was "Hackers steal Christmas." Now, the story is "Mega saves Christmas." Also, he probably wanted to play some video games and it's not like Mega vouchers cost him all that much, particularly considering this is basically an advertising expense.
Seriously, he just ended up passing the hot potato to someone else. That someone else is now Tor. I think I would've preferred to let Microsoft deal with the DDoS (they have the means).
Giving in to criminals's demands really ends up making things worse in the long term, whether it's bank robbers, CryptoLocker creators or the owners of botnets that can DDOS sites.
Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Calling them script kiddies is not productive either. They're hackers by the now commonly accepted definition as used in the media. That ship sailed ages ago, but if you want to bicker about what to call them the correct term is probably something along the lines of cyber criminals.
I don't usually care for the meaning of "hacker" (tinkerer or pirate) but in this case calling them "hacker", even in the mainstream meaning of the word is giving them too much credit. They're not hacking anything any more that 4chan users "hack" websites by flooding them, there's no "hack" involved in any meaning of the word. I'm sure they love being called "hackers" by the media. So yeah, I'm definitely in favor of…
Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor
#57The thing I fear the most is cyber retaliation. So many of us have accounts on the Internet that matter to us day to day. If they are reading this (I am damn sure they are), and if they don't like you, they will try to take over your accounts and make fun of you. Fear is the most destructive and most effective weapon and such weapon is most terrible when targeting at individuals. But I still have to drop a line: plea…
Luckily, neither am I.
Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
So the question is, why is Google not shutting them down now.
Have they taken any action that would be cause for a shutdown? Does Google not allow you to run Tor relays on their service? Genuine questions, I'm not familiar enough with the service.
Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
It was a chance to inject Mega's name into a big story. Before, the story was "Hackers steal Christmas." Now, the story is "Mega saves Christmas." Also, he probably wanted to play some video games and it's not like Mega vouchers cost him all that much, particularly considering this is basically an advertising expense.
New headline: Mega Helps Destroy Tor Network Seriously, he just ended up passing the hot potato to someone else. That someone else is now Tor. I think I would've preferred to let Microsoft deal with the DDoS (they have the means). Giving in to criminals's demands really ends up making things worse in the long term, whether it's bank robbers, CryptoLocker creators or the owners of botnets that can DDOS sites.
Re: Hackers Who Shut Down PSN and Xbox Live Now Attacking Tor
#60If so, it'd be simple for Google to wipe them. Otherwise, I have no doubt the tor directory authorities will be keeping an eye on these for malicious activity and will mark them as Bad Relays if any is detected.