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Re: Ask HN: What new or hot technology do you recommend learning?

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Post by fit2rule »

proveanegative wrote: post #70
fit2rule wrote: post #11

Give Lua some love. Learn the language, learn the VM. Learn to integrate it with a set of libraries and so on. Lots of bleeding edge stuff runs on Lua and its a fantastic stack of technology to learn ..

>Give Lua some love. Pun intended? LÖVE ( https://love2d.org/ ) happens to be a great way to learn Lua.

So are MOAI, openresty, luvit .. Kademlua, elua, busted .. Penlight .. lapis, luarocks .. luamongo .. and last but not least, snabbswitch.

All projects from which I have learned a great deal of Lua. ;)

Re: Ask HN: What new or hot technology do you recommend learning?

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Post by childintime »

Whoa! Noone mentions elm (elm-lang.org)?!

There is much brewing in language land. Rust brings a set of ideas that other languages will borrow (pun intended). But..

Elm restarts programming, treating events as lists, and this is how programming will change over the next 5-10 years in a most fundamental way.

Taken together programming is climbing out of the miserable non-composable mess that having been stupid bread-and-butter bit-fuckers have put us in. Elm just leads the pack.

You may not understand its ways, that is exactly because you think being a bread-and-butter bit-fucker is a feature, while it most definitely is not. It is a bug and it infests the code you write, up to the point where unlearning is an unsurmountable effort.

When elm's wave is through, the computer will replace you, and with it children will design much better programs than you do. Please stop making sense now.

Re: Ask HN: What new or hot technology do you recommend learning?

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Post by adamnemecek »

ethbro wrote: post #67
getsat wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not just memory leaks... all the recent hacks/exploits are showing us that even the best people in our field can't write secure code in C/C++. You can reduce your attack surface substantially by using a language like Rust.

Imho, it's a scalability issue. Was OpenSSL secure when it was originally written in X lines of code? Very likely. Is it feasible to expect it to be secure now that it's X^Y lines of code, when a large class of bugs can exist in any line of code ? No. That's what 15 years of an evolving codebase has taught us. Which is reasonable, given that a lot of open source projects came into existence in the mid-90s. Inculcate…

Does it really matter whether it's a scalability issue though? The bottom line is that the code has bugs, whether it's due to the fact that the codebase is large is somewhat irrelevant.

Re: Ask HN: What new or hot technology do you recommend learning?

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Post by wtracy »

childintime wrote: post #72

Whoa! Noone mentions elm (elm-lang.org)?! There is much brewing in language land. Rust brings a set of ideas that other languages will borrow (pun intended). But.. Elm restarts programming, treating events as lists, and this is how programming will change over the next 5-10 years in a most fundamental way. Taken together programming is climbing out of the miserable non-composable mess that having been stupid bread-an…

How does this differ from FRP in Haskell?

Re: Ask HN: What new or hot technology do you recommend learning?

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Post by olavgg »

sshillo wrote: post #14

If you don't know python and you're interested in analytics you should solve that. IMHO you'll become a far better developer if you devote the majority of your time to learning advanced algorithms, ml, and ai as opposed to the new hot framework.

I've already started, there is a bigger challenge though. That is, how do you sell this? I can think of plenty of scenarios for the oil and gas industry, which is the biggest industry where I live.

For example drilling for oil in sea is quite expensive, could easily cost over 100 million USD. With machine learning we can predict the seismic ground pattern by predicting the amount of clay, lime etc in different locations and between wells. This can help us to decide if there is a good chance there could be oil/gas underground.

The problem when I present this, is that it quickly sounds like science fiction.

Re: Ask HN: What new or hot technology do you recommend learning?

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Post by pmoriarty »

Reading these replies just makes me sad. There's plenty of value in and plenty to learn from older technologies like Lisp, Scheme, Smalltalk, and Forth.

Sure, there's a lot of hype around newer technologies. There's never a shortage of hype. But the glow around virtually all of them will fade, probably sooner rather than later.

Ruby and Python are no longer considered hot and new, but not so long ago they were. Java and Perl had their share of hype back in the day, but the luster has certainly wore off by now.

Too many people involved in the tech field are endlessly chasing the next shiny thing.

Re: Ask HN: What new or hot technology do you recommend learning?

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

pmoriarty wrote: post #76

Reading these replies just makes me sad. There's plenty of value in and plenty to learn from older technologies like Lisp, Scheme, Smalltalk, and Forth. Sure, there's a lot of hype around newer technologies. There's never a shortage of hype. But the glow around virtually all of them will fade, probably sooner rather than later. Ruby and Python are no longer considered hot and new, but not so long ago they were. Java…

Too pessimistic. The new learns from the lessons of the old. I'd advise a new student to start with tools that reflected advancements in thought and practice. It might be cool to use the old tools because they are part of history; but its not helpful to the new student.

Re: Ask HN: What new or hot technology do you recommend learning?

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Post by corysama »

http://elm-lang.org is a functional and reactive client-side (js target) language that is still young and getting great very fast. http://pragmaticstudio.com/blog/2014/12/19/getting-started-w... The idea of combining Elm with Elixir or Yesod (Haskell) on the server side seems exciting.

Another interesting project is Snabb Switch. If you want to learn networking at the lowest level and highest speed possible in software, Snabb a great platform for experimentation.

Finally, I'll throw in http://terralang.org. It's not networking related. But, I think it's terribly interesting and not getting any attention.

Re: Ask HN: What new or hot technology do you recommend learning?

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Post by amirouche »

sparkie wrote: post #66
amirouche wrote: post #25

I think that functionnal programming is a good candidate. You can learn about it in different situations/languages. It opens the mind about the code and its design by exploring other patterns. - http://scott.sauyet.com/Javascript/Talk/FunctionalProgrammin... explain how procedure ahem function composition leads to better/more readable code - datalog is a DSL for querying (recursive/linked data) http://www.learndatalo…

Another nice DSL query language is Gremlin, for querying a bunch of graph databases. https://github.com/tinkerpop/gremlin/wiki

Gremlin is nice, powerful and easier to grasp. Datalog programs are more compact. I need more experience to know if datalog is as powerful. On the subset of queries, I used datalog, I prefer datalog.

Re: Ask HN: What new or hot technology do you recommend learning?

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Post by pmoriarty »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #77
pmoriarty wrote: post #76

Reading these replies just makes me sad. There's plenty of value in and plenty to learn from older technologies like Lisp, Scheme, Smalltalk, and Forth. Sure, there's a lot of hype around newer technologies. There's never a shortage of hype. But the glow around virtually all of them will fade, probably sooner rather than later. Ruby and Python are no longer considered hot and new, but not so long ago they were. Java…

Too pessimistic. The new learns from the lessons of the old. I'd advise a new student to start with tools that reflected advancements in thought and practice. It might be cool to use the old tools because they are part of history; but its not helpful to the new student.

If only they were advances rather than regressions. Far too much overhyped technology actually sets back progress by decades rather than advances it.

Unfortunately, "the new student", never having learned the lessons of the past doesn't know any better and is condemned to repeat mistakes and reinvent and rediscover poor imitations of older technologies while calling them new.

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