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Kim Dotcom Stops Xbox and Playstation Attacks

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Re: Kim Dotcom Stops Xbox and Playstation Attacks

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This kind of stuff is really upsetting. If you don't want people to do this kind of thing, you have to not encourage them. Even if they are all arrested, others will see this. And think, Hey I can get a reward for doing this stuff. A 10 sec look at their twitter feed will tell you that they are doing this primarily to make a name for themselves. They want to be famous. Yet what does every single news outlet do? Plast…

>Yet what does every single news outlet do? What they're supposed to? This is after all, news. You don't drop a story because you think someone is a cunt.

You report it, as news, saying "a hacker group". You don't have to report the name of the group. There's something called "Journalism ethics and standards", that includes stuff like not reporting a victim's name or in a lot of cases not broadcasting the videos terrorist groups send out.

You want to see something scary, start to look at how media coverage affects mass shootings. There is very strong evidence to support the idea that our current media coverage of making these people "famous" increases the deadliness of these events as compared to something like the North Hollywood Shootout.

Re: Kim Dotcom Stops Xbox and Playstation Attacks

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>but on the other hand it's likely most or all of them will be arrested in the not-so-distant future People have been saying this for 3-4 months now.

Take a look at the following Twitter: https://twitter.com/finestsquad At least one of them, a 17-year-old from Canada, has already been arrested. The personal information of most of the rest of the group has already been publicly spread by "Finest Squad" and sent to law enforcement (though I imagine law enforcement probably already knows who most of them are, especially if other random Internet users can find their n…

What's there to back up the legitimacy of the information released by these guys?

It just looks like they're tweeting out random IPs from zeustracker.

Re: Kim Dotcom Stops Xbox and Playstation Attacks

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post #10

So, any group of kids with access to one-click DDOS tools can extort $300,000USD worth of services out of a business by attacking large networks? Is Kim really that proud of this precedent? Will a $300k ransom be enough next time? Maybe that's the future of high uptime public networks, an understanding that millions or even tens of millions per year must be set aside for bribes. Sounds a bit like driving through a co…

"can extort $300,000USD worth of services out of a business"

That's not the value. It's probably going to cost around 50k to 100k

I certainly don't agree with the precedent, though

Re: Kim Dotcom Stops Xbox and Playstation Attacks

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post #8

This kind of stuff is really upsetting. If you don't want people to do this kind of thing, you have to not encourage them. Even if they are all arrested, others will see this. And think, Hey I can get a reward for doing this stuff. A 10 sec look at their twitter feed will tell you that they are doing this primarily to make a name for themselves. They want to be famous. Yet what does every single news outlet do? Plast…

>Yet what does every single news outlet do? What they're supposed to? This is after all, news. You don't drop a story because you think someone is a cunt.

Are you sure about your last sentence? The last time I checked, all that news did was eavesdrop and classify everyone as a cunt, because those news sell.

Re: Kim Dotcom Stops Xbox and Playstation Attacks

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post #10

So, any group of kids with access to one-click DDOS tools can extort $300,000USD worth of services out of a business by attacking large networks? Is Kim really that proud of this precedent? Will a $300k ransom be enough next time? Maybe that's the future of high uptime public networks, an understanding that millions or even tens of millions per year must be set aside for bribes. Sounds a bit like driving through a co…

Except it's not really $300,000 worth of actual services. If I stuck a $300,000 price tag on a rock and used that as a ransom does not mean they got away with $300,000 worth of stuff. Plus all their groups information has been leaked (http://www.lizardsquad.info), so I put this down to kids with too much bandwidth rather than a precedent setting event.

Re: Kim Dotcom Stops Xbox and Playstation Attacks

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post #8

This kind of stuff is really upsetting. If you don't want people to do this kind of thing, you have to not encourage them. Even if they are all arrested, others will see this. And think, Hey I can get a reward for doing this stuff. A 10 sec look at their twitter feed will tell you that they are doing this primarily to make a name for themselves. They want to be famous. Yet what does every single news outlet do? Plast…

>Yet what does every single news outlet do? What they're supposed to? This is after all, news. You don't drop a story because you think someone is a cunt.

You say "a group of hackers" or whatever and don't name them. Similarly with serial killers, school shootings, or anything of that nature you simply don't say the name. Psychologists have been saying for years that doing so only encourages copy cats, because they want to be in the media spotlight.

Re: Kim Dotcom Stops Xbox and Playstation Attacks

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post #8

This kind of stuff is really upsetting. If you don't want people to do this kind of thing, you have to not encourage them. Even if they are all arrested, others will see this. And think, Hey I can get a reward for doing this stuff. A 10 sec look at their twitter feed will tell you that they are doing this primarily to make a name for themselves. They want to be famous. Yet what does every single news outlet do? Plast…

>Yet what does every single news outlet do? What they're supposed to? This is after all, news. You don't drop a story because you think someone is a cunt.

What they're supposed to? This is after all, news.

I think the point is that you just don't publish the names of the groups responsible for the attacks. The truly interested (security professionals, law enforcement) can go dig for the group names, other people don't really need to know, and likely don't care anyway.

Re: Kim Dotcom Stops Xbox and Playstation Attacks

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post #13
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Take a look at the following Twitter: https://twitter.com/finestsquad At least one of them, a 17-year-old from Canada, has already been arrested. The personal information of most of the rest of the group has already been publicly spread by "Finest Squad" and sent to law enforcement (though I imagine law enforcement probably already knows who most of them are, especially if other random Internet users can find their n…

What's there to back up the legitimacy of the information released by these guys? It just looks like they're tweeting out random IPs from zeustracker.

If you're familiar with some of the script kiddie communities these people hang out in, it's not that hard to check their work.

It's quite possible they got a few wrong; I have not independently confirmed the information and I'm not sure anyone else has. One can clearly tell what sort of individuals the perpetrators are, though, and US law enforcement typically does not have a lot of trouble identifying and rounding up egotistical script kiddies. Look at LulzSec and all the copycats.

Feel free to put my comment on a calendar: I'd bet a fair bit of money that 75% or more of the group will be arrested before Christmas of 2015.

Re: Kim Dotcom Stops Xbox and Playstation Attacks

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Is there any reason to believe this wasnt for publicity and to get his message about diplomacy out? He definitely has the resources to do this.

I will allow for a slight chance that he really did sincerely just want to play Xbox/Playstation yesterday.

I think it's pretty likely. Kim is one of the top Call of Duty players in the world for Xbox, and is known to be a very avid gamer.

The publicity sure doesn't hurt, either.

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