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You cannot have more than 10 years of experience in Rails

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Re: You cannot have more than 10 years of experience in Rails

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Ruby the programming language wasn't developed by DHH. It was developed by Matz ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_%28programming_language%29 ). Second sentence, first paragraph. Also, the guy was replying to a Craigslist ad. I'm not really sure what he was expecting.

It says 10+ years of rails specifically in the email.

Article author informs us DHH created "Rudy" 10 years ago.

Re: You cannot have more than 10 years of experience in Rails

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I recall in January 1995 I subscribed to the Hotwire newsletter, and in their next issue they announced that they were hiring. The job demanded that you have at least 2 years experience with HTML (and have a homepage that you could point to, so they could see your work). I've always wondered, how many people had 2 years experience with HTML in January of 1995? The initial release of Mosaic was in January of 1993, so…

HTML existed before Mosaic.

Re: You cannot have more than 10 years of experience in Rails

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I recall in January 1995 I subscribed to the Hotwire newsletter, and in their next issue they announced that they were hiring. The job demanded that you have at least 2 years experience with HTML (and have a homepage that you could point to, so they could see your work). I've always wondered, how many people had 2 years experience with HTML in January of 1995? The initial release of Mosaic was in January of 1993, so…

Folks were writing HTML pages before MOSAIC, they just weren't very interesting compared to MOSAIC-era websites or later.

I know because I was one of them, albeit a kid.

Re: You cannot have more than 10 years of experience in Rails

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All this tells me is they didn't want to say why they rejected you, lack of a required experience is a benign excuse. The reality might be you were too old, too young, too smart, too stupid, wrong race, looked like the guy who ran off with the managers wife, who knows. I would never expect to learn anything from a job rejection, or for that matter from a lost sale.

Exactly. After all, are they supposed to "excuse" it at all ?

"Sorry , you are a really strong candidate and we were happy to talk with you, but in the end we decided to go forward with other candidates that are a better fit for the profile we are seeking."

No harsh feelings, no lies, no harm done.

Re: You cannot have more than 10 years of experience in Rails

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if you are looking for a Senior PHP programmer or an algorithmic trading programmer let me know That is a very unusual mix of skills. Very unusual indeed.

I have similar experience. I've been doing algo trading for a decade, but out of interest I came up with a side project. It's a web service that uses django, with phone apps written for Android and iOS. There's a certain trepidation to learning a new stack, but if you've done one you can do another.

I dabble in a bunch of stuff too, but those are different enough skillsets that I'd wonder about a guy claiming equal expertise in both.

Re: You cannot have more than 10 years of experience in Rails

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There was a job posting I applied for in 2005 that was asking for 5+ years of .Net experience. Since .Net came out in 2002, I assumed they meant 5+ years _development_ experience with some .Net as well. I made it to a phone screen with someone in HR and they were very sticky on this 5 years of .Net experience. When I tried to explain that it was impossible without a time machine, she said she would have to talk to the hiring manager and get back to me.

Never heard back, and I'm not even sure if I would've taken it anyway. If that kind of bullshit makes it into the hiring process I can't imagine what it would be like to work for them.

Re: You cannot have more than 10 years of experience in Rails

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is difficult to find a replacement job in 30 days if fired. Its not hard to quietly look for a better job while on an h1b. And once company A already sponsored the visa, finding company B to extend it is pretty easy. Its very far from indentured servitude unless you come to the states and refuse to speak to anyone outside your community.

You forgot to mention that the aim of H1B workers is to get a green card, and that for the EB1/EB2-NIV track, where the applicant files himself, a PhD degree is a near requirement. In the majority of cases it's the company that files for green card; if you change employer the process starts again all over. And there is a maximum of 5 years on H1B. It's not nearly as easy as you say. The environment is structured so t…

You are criticizing the GC process, not the h1b process. The h1b is to address a temporary worker shortage, not put people on a long term immigration track due to high skill.

It would be great if we had such a track (beyond people of extreme talent), but we don't.

Re: You cannot have more than 10 years of experience in Rails

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Considering that OP doesn't have the strongest grasp on the english language.

"We are moving forward with 2 other candidates who have 10+ years of Rails experience."

Could be interpreted to mean that those 2 individuals have over 10 years experience collectively between them and not each. There are a lot of people who have 5+ years of Rails experience.

Re: You cannot have more than 10 years of experience in Rails

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I've got more than 10 years of rails experience. I started with Rails 0.5 in July 2004. So looking at the calendar we're at 10.5 years. There were only like 5 people including DHH when i joined the #rubyonrails irc channel. And on top of that i've done lots of other things in the rails world, like managing people since then. The thing is, rails has changed so much, i'm not sure how much value there is in that. If i w…

"A language a year" is pretty pointless, especially if practice in any given language is not good.
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