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Re: NSA Reports Improper Surveillance of Americans

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Post by vermontdevil » Fri, Dec 26, 2014, 1:28 PM UTC

ceejayoz wrote: post #7

> In a 2012 case, for example, an NSA analyst “searched her spouse’s personal telephone directory without his knowledge to obtain names and telephone numbers for targeting,” according to one report. The analyst “has been advised to cease her activities,” it said. How is this not a crime? It they can come over you from downloading off JSTOR using legitimate access, why is this person still employed at the NSA rather t…

Lack of oversight by Congress and complacency by the public leads to government agencies to get away with petty things like this and more serious abuses as well.

Re: NSA Reports Improper Surveillance of Americans

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Post by astrange » Fri, Dec 26, 2014, 3:59 PM UTC

Htsthbjig wrote: post #14

ceejayoz wrote: post #7

> In a 2012 case, for example, an NSA analyst “searched her spouse’s personal telephone directory without his knowledge to obtain names and telephone numbers for targeting,” according to one report. The analyst “has been advised to cease her activities,” it said. How is this not a crime? It they can come over you from downloading off JSTOR using legitimate access, why is this person still employed at the NSA rather t…

"How is this not a crime?" It is. But a crime does not need to be punished if those that commit it are powerful enough. People in the NSA know lots of secrets of everybody. They know if the president has a mistress. They know if members of congress or their family do take drugs. They know who is corrupt and who does not. They know all the mistakes people did for getting where they are. Remember that the NSA records a…

> They know if the president has a mistress.

That's amazing that you know this, when it isn't mentioned in the official report about exactly what things they look up.

Re: NSA Reports Improper Surveillance of Americans

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Post by vegedor » Sat, Dec 27, 2014, 5:14 AM UTC

cyphunk wrote: post #3

Releasing such documents, even if fully redacted, is important for State Agencies when dealing with a branding windfall. This, along with for example Obama's recent memo to the US Intelligence community asking them to be more considerate of civil liberties for allied nations, do nothing to actually address the problem but they do give off the appearance of caring. Compare this to how a corporation deals with a negati…

of course it's just another corporation you could as well call The embodiment of US Government. The metaphor applies well; As a legal term, not so much, I guess.