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UI Performance Decline – OS X Tiger to Yosemite [video]

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Re: UI Performance Decline – OS X Tiger to Yosemite [video]

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Post by pedalpete »

r00fus wrote: post #214
basch wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows doesnt really have licensing issues. You call a phone number, tell them you want to activate windows, read them a number, and a machine reads you a number. It takes about 6 minutes of your life, and Microsoft always activates when you ask. For example, if you buy Windows 8.1 you have downgrade rights to every earlier version. All you do is speak with a person, say "I would like to activate windows" and they s…

It's a hassle if you have to call the vendor at all. Not all Windows versions have downgrade rights (see Vista, certain editions of 7). Also pricing is an issue: all recent desktop versions of MacOSX are either free or very inexpensive ($30 or less). You could likewise say that filing an insurance claim is easy... sure, but for some folks even knowing to make the call is an undue burden - exactly how the vendor wants…

As a counter argument, Apple fans are always telling me "just go to the genius bar, they'll sort it out". As if that isn't a hassle. I've never had the need to take any of my windows machines in to be serviced.

Re: UI Performance Decline – OS X Tiger to Yosemite [video]

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Post by pedalpete »

mrmondo wrote: post #13

was heavily involved in the beta testing of 10.10, In my experience Yosemite is by far not only the most buggy, but also slowest release of OSX. I am saddened to report that only one of the many performance regressions I reported was actually fixed (In that case within Mail.app). A huge portion of the performance problems seem to be stemming from the graphics subsystem. If you use Yosemite on dual Retina or even WQHD…

Sounds to me like they were pushing the feature so they can run up against hi-res machines from competitors.

Anybody with one of the new 5k imacs want to chime in? Similar graphics issues.

Re: UI Performance Decline – OS X Tiger to Yosemite [video]

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Post by [deleted] »

oscargrouch wrote: post #227
oscargrouch wrote: post #25

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I've always thought of Apple as a marketing company that happens to sell technology, and not a technology company that sells through marketing. Also the capitalism of today with all of its lust for profits, sales, budgets, and deadlines its kind of luddite, can have a predatory behaviour for innovation and advancements in technology in general. I think if tech companies want to survive for more than 10/20 years, they…

Oh forgive me priest of the Apple church, cause i've committed a sin.. How many ipads i have to buy to be forgiven? creepy..

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Re: UI Performance Decline – OS X Tiger to Yosemite [video]

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Post by danbee »

naoru wrote: post #129

Yeah. Just look at this menu bar when switching focus from internal Retina display to external non-Retina ATD. http://cl.ly/2W172H0l3s0z This bugs the hell out of me. Not so long ago I grabbed myself a G4 MDD with 768M of RAM — it was much more responsible in terms of UI. 3-4 browser tabs slowed it down though, while my current rMBP13" from 2012 works ok with a lot more.

I see this ALL THE TIME. Makes me think that Apple did no testing with dual displays. I've noticed times where it's taken 2-3 seconds to settle down.

Re: UI Performance Decline – OS X Tiger to Yosemite [video]

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Post by raverbashing »

mullingitover wrote: post #228
raverbashing wrote: post #113

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You can upgrade the RAM on the MacBook Pro Source: using 16GB here

None of the rMBPs, nor the minis have upgradeable ram. If I had to put money on it I'd bet a dollar the next-gen iMacs will be in the same boat. Just too hard to pass up that 400% markup.

Yeah, this is ridiculous.

Especially when the default RAM they sell with is usually too small.

Re: UI Performance Decline – OS X Tiger to Yosemite [video]

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Post by astrange »

blkhp19 wrote: post #26
comex wrote: post #5

Interesting. The flashing at least seems to be an isolated System Preferences bug, as I don't remember seeing it in any other applications. Would be better to compare a larger number of UI interactions - Finder, Safari, Exposé/Mission Control, iTunes, etc., to more clearly establish a pattern rather than just claiming it anecdotally. Not saying the pattern isn't there, but proving it would be a breath of fresh in air…

Tiger didn't have Mission Control, but I certainly think there are other tests that could be done that really compare all aspects of the OS. I can tell you that Mission Control is, at times (far too frequently) extremely laggy for me on OS X Yosemite. Couple that with apps leaking memory, leaving me with mere megabytes of free RAM, and my top of the line rMBP slows to a crawl.

The "free RAM" statistic is meaningless. Are any applications in particular using lots of private memory?

Re: UI Performance Decline – OS X Tiger to Yosemite [video]

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Post by lommaj »

bliker wrote: post #149
lunixbochs wrote: post #81

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Okay, BeamSyncDropper is awesome. I put this [1] in `~/Library/LaunchAgents/self.beamsync.dropper.plist` and it starts immediately in the background on login. (Make sure to change the program path). [1] https://bochs.info/p/8k7aj

I get this awful glitching when switching spaces and I can’t really see much of a speedup. Not sure about the awesomeness, but it is fairly easy to try out.

I have the same problem, switching spaces will get stuck or glitch. Often times skipping the space i was trying to get to. didnt have this problem on mavericks. I wiped my system and reinstalled and its still there. Im not sure what the point of yosemite is, considering all these phone features google supports via chrome plugins why apple has to bake it into the OS perplexes me.

Re: UI Performance Decline – OS X Tiger to Yosemite [video]

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Post by calciphus »

jdhawk wrote: post #174
city41 wrote: post #22

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I'm at my wits end with Yosemite. I'm very seriously considering switching to Linux or Windows. Of the numerous problems this OS has, my biggest problem is waking my rMBP from sleep. About 20% of the time, it just doesn't wake up and requires a hard shutdown. I never had that problem with Mountain Lion or Mavericks.

Why not downgrade to Mountain Lion? Security updates?

My office recently started using Keynote for a lot of our presentations. Keynote presentations created on the version that is compatible with Yosemite (and nothing prior) cannot be opened on earlier versions.

Even if security updates still come for what...usually 20-30 months with Apple...they still don't care about any other kind of backward compatibility and happily break their own file formats at will.

Re: UI Performance Decline – OS X Tiger to Yosemite [video]

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Post by calciphus »

mcintyre1994 wrote: post #177
jdhawk wrote: post #174

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Why not downgrade to Mountain Lion? Security updates?

Just to check, do Apple only provide security updates to the newest OS X?

Apple provides security updates back somewhere between 36 and 44 months for the OS. Unfortunately, you won't know until they announce some exploit and don't patch your OS if you've been left behind or not.

Re: UI Performance Decline – OS X Tiger to Yosemite [video]

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Post by kossTKR »

Earlier this year, around 3 months ago, when i bought my brand new Macbook Pro 15" Iris Pro (the one without discrete graphics card). I was i disappointed in the performance of the UI, and i uploaded 3 videos to showcase the problems.

A 2000$ dollar machine stuttering when i drag windows around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqUHfjD6qWc&index=1&list=UUE...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1xhpFRDNdQ&list=UUEhez4TDTd...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNGYjFRQrSM&index=3&list=UUE...

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