Why movies look weird at 48fps, and games are better at 60fps
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Why movies look weird at 48fps, and games are better at 60fps
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#3Seems to be down. Cached version: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Hu955ZD...
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#4This article is detailed and scientific.
However, anecdotally speaking, the concern I have with evaluating high-frame rate in film is that we have very little context—most of us have only ever seen Peter Jackson's Hobbit films in HFR. In other words, I have never seen how other directors' work would be affected by HFR.
Speaking exclusively about the Hobbit series in HFR, I too observed an uncanny valley that traditional films intrinsically avoid with their low frame rate. The Hobbit films felt more like a play than a film. A play with elaborate stage effects, but a play nonetheless.
In fact, my chief criticism of Jackson's directing with HFR is that the feeling of watching a play is amplified by how he mixes the sound and directs his extras. The extras routinely just mumble nonsense in the background, leaving only the character you're intended to be focused on speaking clearly. It's the same thing you see in a play when there is background dialog, and it's completely unnatural. You find yourself sometimes distracted by the characters in the background and realizing they're not actually doing anything meaningful or having real conversations. For example, in the most recent film, I found myself more distracted by the unnatural audio in early scenes (such as the beach scene) than the HFR video.
Combine that with the poor acting by the minor characters in the first 45 minutes of the recent film and I think HFR gets a bad rap in large part because the Hobbit films alone are our point of reference.
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#5There's also a high-level processing aspect. The brain excels at extracting relevant information, which includes discordant information. Back in the days, a solo violin was tuned slightly off to allow the audience to hear it over the orchestra. Barthes also came up with the "punctum" idea, whereby an odd detail in a picture will generate an impression.
What I'm saying is that higher-level processing is probably responsible for a number of "impressions" that might have little to do with fps.
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#6This article is detailed and scientific. However, anecdotally speaking, the concern I have with evaluating high-frame rate in film is that we have very little context—most of us have only ever seen Peter Jackson's Hobbit films in HFR. In other words, I have never seen how other directors' work would be affected by HFR. Speaking exclusively about the Hobbit series in HFR, I too observed an uncanny valley that traditio…
On TV you see high frame rate content every day (well, if you still watch traditional television, that is). It's just that big Hollywood movies (and fictional films in general) were not shot in HFR before. But all sports content, many documentaries and most news are 50 to 59.94 Hz (depending on where you leave) on traditional TV (not when viewed over the web, of course).
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#7Duplicate. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8791721
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#8This article is detailed and scientific. However, anecdotally speaking, the concern I have with evaluating high-frame rate in film is that we have very little context—most of us have only ever seen Peter Jackson's Hobbit films in HFR. In other words, I have never seen how other directors' work would be affected by HFR. Speaking exclusively about the Hobbit series in HFR, I too observed an uncanny valley that traditio…
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#9Site isn't loading. Google cache: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Hu955ZD...
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#10This article is detailed and scientific. However, anecdotally speaking, the concern I have with evaluating high-frame rate in film is that we have very little context—most of us have only ever seen Peter Jackson's Hobbit films in HFR. In other words, I have never seen how other directors' work would be affected by HFR. Speaking exclusively about the Hobbit series in HFR, I too observed an uncanny valley that traditio…
Just my opinion here, but for context you can include virtually any television program that originated as NTSC and was not shot on film and telecined. Just about any soap-opera for example. A more recent example would be NBC's Peter Pan Live, which looked like it was done in native 60p to my eye. Paradoxically it was a play but really would have benefitted greatly from 24p.