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Re: Show HN: Learn Chinese Through Novels

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The novel used in the sample is a very bad choice. The author has his special style, hopelessly outdated. Chinese novels are not easy for beginners, my suggestion is to go with novels that're translated into Chinese from English, like Sherlock Holmes. The translator uses good Chinese, and the stories are familiar, therefore you will have an easy time understanding the texts. After all, it's the language you are inter…

> my suggestion is to go with novels that're translated into Chinese from English, like Sherlock Holmes. The translator uses good Chinese, and the stories are familiar, therefore you will have an easy time understanding the texts Really? This seems counterintuitive unless China has a really, really good translation industry. In my experience with Japanese translations, you're as likely to get a good translation as yo…

of course good translation is rare. The reason I recommended Sherlock is that it was translated back in 1980s, golden age of translation industry in China. after that, things went down quickly as those masters passed away.

Re: Show HN: Learn Chinese Through Novels

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Ha! Coincidentally, I was watching a great TED talk the other day on learning the building blocks of Chinese letters! The talk is short but great and inspired me to look into the language: http://www.ted.com/talks/shaolan_learn_to_read_chinese_with_...

Here is the link for the website: http://chineasy.org

Re: Show HN: Learn Chinese Through Novels

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看起来不错。有一个小问题:favicon不是一个正式的汉字,只是一个偏旁部首。

I don't know what the creators' intentions were regarding the favicon. It is, however, the katakana "chi" (チ), which corresponds to the name "Chicory". Seems bizarre, but that's the connection I saw.

Katakata, like zhuyin, is "hanzi/kanji written small", just as hiragana is "hanzi written quickly". I see hanzi/kanji, katakana, and zhuyin (but not hiragana) as all part of the same "alphabet" used to build up hanzi recursively. Many katakana are components of hanzi.

Re: Show HN: Learn Chinese Through Novels

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know what the creators' intentions were regarding the favicon. It is, however, the katakana "chi" (チ), which corresponds to the name "Chicory". Seems bizarre, but that's the connection I saw.

Katakata, like zhuyin, is "hanzi/kanji written small", just as hiragana is "hanzi written quickly". I see hanzi/kanji, katakana, and zhuyin (but not hiragana) as all part of the same "alphabet" used to build up hanzi recursively. Many katakana are components of hanzi.

Maybe, but this is rather like using a Cyrillic letter in a Spanish-teaching website. "What language are you teaching anyways?"

Re: Show HN: Learn Chinese Through Novels

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If anyone is looking for a similar tool that works with any Chinese content you like, and is performant even for long texts, you might be interested in my Chinese Text Analyser: http://www.chinesetextanalyser.com/ It also remembers words you know and don't know and can give you an approximation of how well you'll know a given piece of text before you start reading it (once it has a fair idea of your vocabulary). Curr…

Let me know when you release the OSX version, I'm very interested in purchasing.

Re: Show HN: Learn Chinese Through Novels

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

对,鲁迅的文章不适合初学者。推荐一篇散文:《背影》,作者朱自清。这是文章链接: http://www.ccview.net/htm/xiandai/zzq/zzqsw003.htm

Kinda works with http://popjisyo.com : http://www.popjisyo.com/WebHint/AddHint.aspx?d=8&e=GB2312&r=...

是的。酷。

Re: Show HN: Learn Chinese Through Novels

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Chinese is not only about written language. Actually there are two grammar system, written and spoken language. One can learn how to read through novels but not how to speak.

20世纪早期“白话文运动”之后,中国的口语和书面语逐步趋于统一。以前确实是分离的,但也不是绝对分离(有很多古代通俗小说是用白话文或“半文半白”文写的)。那个书写体系叫做“文言文”,如果不经过一定的训练,一般人看不懂。目前,中国的口语和书面语是统一的,没有本质上的区别。所以,能看懂哈利波特的中国人,你能说他说不了英语吗?

Re: Show HN: Learn Chinese Through Novels

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Chinese is not only about written language. Actually there are two grammar system, written and spoken language. One can learn how to read through novels but not how to speak.

I'll just leave this here: http://www.pinyin.info/readings/texts/moser.html (Why Chinese is so damn hard)

象形文字的构词法和拼音文字是不一样的,不能想当然哦。汉字的构词法一般有六种,称为“六书”,即指事、象形、形声、会意、转注、假借。有兴趣进一步了解,可以看这里:http://baike.baidu.com/subview/633/5734721.htm
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