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Attack Is Suspected as North Korean Internet Collapses
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#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well to be clear to the North Koreans this is 100% a propaganda movie.
There seems that people living under regimes with limited freedom often fail to comprehend that people living in other countries might produce something without the explicit approval of their government. To the North Koreans, it is beyond comprehension that people living in the US made something, rather than the US government making it. To them, if Americans made it, that means America made it. This misunderstanding…
> There seems that people living under regimes with limited freedom often fail to comprehend that people living in other countries might produce something without the explicit approval of their government.
Ironically though, there are reports that this is exactly what happened: "U.S. government approved 'The Interview's' assassination scene, Sony emails allege" (http://www.dailydot.com/entertainment/sony-hack-emails-the-i...)
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is illegal. Under the CFAA, any unauthorized access of any "protected" system anywhere (that causes at least $5,000 in damages, but hell, anything over a 1-2 man business can have $5,000 in damages, in legal terms, in a few seconds) is a felony. Protected system: "including a computer located outside the United States that is used in a manner that affects interstate or foreign commerce or communication of the Un…
Yes, but the larger question is whether computers in NK "affect interstate or foreign commerce or communication of the United States ". Since we don't conduct business with NK, I think it wouldn't meet the definition.
Do we not have official communications with NK (really not sure about this, it might be diplomatically and legally we do not, but someone more informed could correct me)?
The CFAA is so vague. It almost always is interpreted in a manner supportive of the USG's prosecution, go figure.
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
We take down governments in our sleep and replace them with our own puppets. Except for the fact that the Chinese protect that particular government, and that makes thing a lot stickier.
China is publicly backing away from North Korea. They have said that they will not come to NK's aid if they do something stupid and get attacked.
> China is publicly backing away from North Korea
It seems to be quite the opposite actually:
> Any civilized world will oppose hacker attacks or terror threats. But a movie like ‘The Interview,’ which makes fun of the leader of an enemy of the U.S., is nothing to be proud of for Hollywood and U.S. society,” an editorial in the newspaper said. “No matter how the U.S. society looks at North Korea and Kim Jong-un, Kim is still the leader of the country. The vicious mocking of Kim is only a result of senseless cultural arrogance.[1]
[1] http://www.ibtimes.com/sony-hack-triggers-diplomatic-tightwa...
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
Good point. And to the same point, neither do accusations anymore.... I think there is a lot going on and we don't know anything about it. I'm not sure if this for national security reasons or because we would be outraged beyond belief....
> I think there is a lot going on and we don't know anything about it. You said it. You know, NK claims that the movie was USG propaganda. And, to the average American ear, that notion probably sounds completely nuts on its face. But, then, there's this that we learned just a couple of weeks ago: http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/12/11/why-usaid-got-into-bed-w... Not only do we not know everything that goes on, but it's…
> You said it. You know, NK claims that the movie was USG propaganda. And, to the average American ear, that notion probably sounds completely nuts on its face.
As it should. There's no need for propaganda against the PDRK, they've done a pretty good job of making themselves look bad on their own.
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
You really think that NK has only a /22? Obviously they have some Chinese blocks routed to them.
Based on information here: http://nknetobserver.github.io/
That was a good read, thank you!
If they are running Cisco up front I wonder it's possible their network was brought down by a zero-day exploit that only uncle sam knows about? (vs. a more mundate DDoS?)
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#127More informative article from Huffington Post:
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#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd really like to know how the U.S. "knows" North Korea is responsible for the attack on Sony and if there's any credible link from U.S. government to this attack of North Korea. Goodness. It could be the same organization behind both. Instigation.
A) The NSA told them. B) The CIA told them. Pick one.
C) The Iraq War WMD-dossier-fairy told them.
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
There seems that people living under regimes with limited freedom often fail to comprehend that people living in other countries might produce something without the explicit approval of their government. To the North Koreans, it is beyond comprehension that people living in the US made something, rather than the US government making it. To them, if Americans made it, that means America made it. This misunderstanding…
> There seems that people living under regimes with limited freedom often fail to comprehend that people living in other countries might produce something without the explicit approval of their government. Ironically though, there are reports that this is exactly what happened: "U.S. government approved 'The Interview's' assassination scene, Sony emails allege" ( http://www.dailydot.com/entertainment/sony-hack-emails…
Approval may be given in countries which are free, but it is not required. If it is required, then that country is not free. Members of the government may chose to praise or condemn any work they please, but in that capacity they are no different from anyone else. We do not strip our elected officials of the right to comment on art.
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#130Obama already calibrated the governments stance on this ordeal when he said the Sony hack was vandalism and NOT terrorism. I don't believe the government being responsible for NK's internet problems is in line with that.
He also seemed to believe that the fault for any censorship as a result of the hack lies squarely within the US.