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Why you should think twice about Freelancer.com

#1
Freelancer.com has given me several projects and some very good relationships. I manage to have a very good reputation and charge much more than the average bids for the quality of work provided. So this is to explain why I suggest killing a stead stream of revenue!

I first noticed several projects involving money exchange posted on Freelancer.com and opened tickets having noticed this to be strange. This indicated a strong message - There is a major security issue that a set of people are exploiting. While I reported it in vain and felt sad for those who were going to fall for this one but didn't realize I would be the one to be scammed very soon.

I had several projects (all web development) I was invited to and paid for which were suddenly reversed without any intimation. The reason provided was that the payments were made using stolen credit cards which they somehow expected me to be aware of!

When I planned to move out of it is when I realized a bigger problem. I had grown as a freelancer and earned a reputation that warranted paying the fees that I did. I had built a level of trust that does not come with portfolios of hundreds of projects or testimonials from people on your website. Because, well, there is no authenticity.

But by growing within freelancer, I had neglected forming my offline network. I did have a good client base I had got from there but not enough to sustain without new ones as the work was never regular. I had missed a very important step : creating a brand for myself outside of a third-party platform. Ensuring a good client base outside and ensuring that you use these platforms to only supplement you.

After raising the issue of multiple reversals, I was contacted by senior staff and compensated with a subscription and promised that I could always check with support team to find if a user was genuine. Shockingly, I was no longer allowed to withdraw funds and the support team do not respond to any questions regarding the same!

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#2
Had similar issues with oDesk, which is now as I know is owned by the same company as freelancer.com. Though it has time tracking and I always tried to bid only on projects with hourly rates, I got stuck with non paying client which dissapeared from the face of the earth, and even when submitting that project is canceled from my side because of no show they are not closing the project. Not to mention I was not paid at all. After this incident I decided to move away from oDesk and similar platforms. As the hourly rates are low, and getting repeating clients with whom you already have relationship to work outside oDesk is easy.

Also there is an issue with 3rd world developers who are making impression that freelancers should be paid dime on a buck.

From client side there are different horror stories when clients are scammed into accepting low-rate bidder, and get burned heavily, and then either turn back from these platforms, or turn to accepting only bids from local country.

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#4
Freelancer is awful. In fact all of those sites are. I made my living off Freelancer for a few years and I can't count the number of times they severely screwed me. I move to Elance which, although much better, has it's own issues. I try to find long-term clients on those sites and move the business away from them as quick as possible and that seems to work well.

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#5

Well, a platform like freelancer is designed intentionally such that you can't, or at least shouldn't, build contact with clients off the platform. Otherwise you and your clients have no use for freelancer.

When you starting to work on project getting e-mail is just matter of receiving/sending deliverables for the first time. If the client is good usually he/she proposes to move away. As when people find devs/designers etc. which they can trust, usually they stop looking around for new ones. Except you are getting on board with some shady company which makes cheap websites for small businesses

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post #2

Had similar issues with oDesk, which is now as I know is owned by the same company as freelancer.com. Though it has time tracking and I always tried to bid only on projects with hourly rates, I got stuck with non paying client which dissapeared from the face of the earth, and even when submitting that project is canceled from my side because of no show they are not closing the project. Not to mention I was not paid a…

> Had similar issues with oDesk, which is now as I know is owned by the same company as freelancer.com

Are you sure? Elance and ODesk "merged", but I thought they were still competitors with Freelancer.

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#7
I try to stay away from sites like that in the first place, because I see wasting a lot of time building a reputation before getting actual work. It just never made sense to me.

The sites like Freelancer and oDesk are saturated with highly competitive, cheap developers from Asia anyway. It's annoying. Nothing against Asians, but I wouldn't try to dive into a pool of them to get work. It's unrealistic in most cases, because they eat up opportunity like machines -- in large numbers.

Better off just cold calling.

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#8

Freelancer is awful. In fact all of those sites are. I made my living off Freelancer for a few years and I can't count the number of times they severely screwed me. I move to Elance which, although much better, has it's own issues. I try to find long-term clients on those sites and move the business away from them as quick as possible and that seems to work well.

ODesk is the least bad of the general sites. There are a few niche networks that are decent also, e.g. TopTal.com.

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#9
post #2

Had similar issues with oDesk, which is now as I know is owned by the same company as freelancer.com. Though it has time tracking and I always tried to bid only on projects with hourly rates, I got stuck with non paying client which dissapeared from the face of the earth, and even when submitting that project is canceled from my side because of no show they are not closing the project. Not to mention I was not paid a…

oDesk and Elance are owned by the same company, but different from Freelancer.

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#10

I try to stay away from sites like that in the first place, because I see wasting a lot of time building a reputation before getting actual work. It just never made sense to me. The sites like Freelancer and oDesk are saturated with highly competitive, cheap developers from Asia anyway. It's annoying. Nothing against Asians, but I wouldn't try to dive into a pool of them to get work. It's unrealistic in most cases, b…

How do you cold call? Who do you cold call?
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