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10 finger multi-touch UI designed to replace the mouse

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Re: 10 finger multi-touch UI designed to replace the mouse

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post #6

tl;dw 30 seconds in and they haven't shown it yet?

It's worse than that. The first time they say anything about their interface is at about 2:00. That's extremely vague (it's a multitouch sensor! where your mouse would be!). No more specifics until about 4:00 (windows are arranged in only one dimension). They don't actually show the damn thing until 4:45.

Oh, and all accompanied by the Most Annoying Music In The World.

Re: 10 finger multi-touch UI designed to replace the mouse

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Talk about multi-touch reminds me of a friend's perennial complaint, "The future of interfaces seems designed to screw me over." He has a congenital deformity of the arms, but he can type (and is one of those clacky-IBM keyboard fetishists). With his feet, he can use mice and controllers. But multi-touch systems are beyond his ability - while he can pivot and shift to type remarkably quickly, he can't get more than o…

That is a really good point. The software of any future interface will have to include support for older devices and techniques. But this may perhaps be a good thing because it would motivate the specific design of devices that will be more efficient for the disabled simply because it will no longer be possible for them to use the multi-touch interface.

Re: 10 finger multi-touch UI designed to replace the mouse

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Talk about multi-touch reminds me of a friend's perennial complaint, "The future of interfaces seems designed to screw me over." He has a congenital deformity of the arms, but he can type (and is one of those clacky-IBM keyboard fetishists). With his feet, he can use mice and controllers. But multi-touch systems are beyond his ability - while he can pivot and shift to type remarkably quickly, he can't get more than o…

Without disagreeing, I also don't think it makes sense to discount potentially massive improvements in user interfaces merely because a portion of the population cannot use them.

Re: 10 finger multi-touch UI designed to replace the mouse

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post #21
post #6

tl;dw 30 seconds in and they haven't shown it yet?

It's worse than that. The first time they say anything about their interface is at about 2:00. That's extremely vague (it's a multitouch sensor! where your mouse would be!). No more specifics until about 4:00 (windows are arranged in only one dimension). They don't actually show the damn thing until 4:45. Oh, and all accompanied by the Most Annoying Music In The World.

Patience. Any good idea requires a full explanation to build it up. I feel that they did the right thing by contrasting the mouse with their new system because it helped show the benefits of a ten figure multi-touch pad compared with a single point mouse.

Re: 10 finger multi-touch UI designed to replace the mouse

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post #4

I'm looking forward to use a multitouch touchpad with my desktop keyboard just as I currently do with my laptop. However I will definitely want to keep a mouse also when in need for more precision for tasks like photo editing etc. 10gui seems to be a very cool prototype and I guess that Apple and Microsoft are already working on things like this. I also spotted a weakness of this demo: 10gui uses the little finger to…

I agree. A ten finger system is going to appeal greatly to those of us who already touch type and are used to using multiple fingers. But I suspect that many people aren't going to be too happy with the coordination required to use such a system.

But I may be wrong. Perhaps when it comes down to it the interface will feel so intuitive that there will be no problems at all. We'll have to wait and see.

Re: 10 finger multi-touch UI designed to replace the mouse

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post #15

While we're rethinking the human interface, could we please stop staggering typing keys and put frequently used keys like carriage return and backspace under strong fingers? [1] I was disappointed to see at the end of the 10gui video a concept keyboard with staggered keys and with backspace way over in the corner. If we can't move keyboards past the constraints imposed by mechanical typewriters, what hope do we have…

If you have a Kinesis Advantage keyboard the backspace,delete space,enter are under your thumbs

Re: 10 finger multi-touch UI designed to replace the mouse

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post #16

There's a similar device I read about with a hardware prototype that actually works. It doesn't have the software support of 10gui but it's basically a resistive touchscreen mapped to keypress macros (copy/paste, app switching, etc). Here's some pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pauric/sets/72157616093748066/w...

Is that the same device? It doesn't look anything like the prototype design in the video.

I also don't see any correlation between Pauric on Flickr and C. Miller of 10/GUI, at least not by exploring Pauric's Flickr profile or Twitter account.

Perhaps you can explain why you think that those images are of 10/GUI's device? How did you find them?

Re: 10 finger multi-touch UI designed to replace the mouse

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post #23

Talk about multi-touch reminds me of a friend's perennial complaint, "The future of interfaces seems designed to screw me over." He has a congenital deformity of the arms, but he can type (and is one of those clacky-IBM keyboard fetishists). With his feet, he can use mice and controllers. But multi-touch systems are beyond his ability - while he can pivot and shift to type remarkably quickly, he can't get more than o…

Without disagreeing, I also don't think it makes sense to discount potentially massive improvements in user interfaces merely because a portion of the population cannot use them.

No, but his problem actually points to this being a problem for anyone.

It becomes a problem when the machine requires all of my dexterity just to accomplish a given task. I dislike all Apple products specifically because they require mouse operations to accomplish things where Linux and MS interfaces tend to have keyboard shortcuts.

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